RE: Newbie using Exchange[Scanned]
- From: Jared Johnson <jaredsjazz@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "\[ExchangeList\]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 06:22:45 -0800 (PST)
Dear Mr. Wayne James,
Please email me directly and I will explain it to you,
how it's setup, etc. It's very easy. Don't be
persuaded or taken-aback by these "consultants" (Mr.
Tolmachoff) who pretend it's all very difficult so
they can charge $200.00 an hour. It's not. Look
forward to chatting with you.
Cheers, Jared
wljames@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
--- Donavon Yelton <dyelton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
> I'm for once glad that someone else shares the same
> views as me. Every
> single day when I read through the e-mails from this
> list I'm bombarded
> with John's comments regarding the "read the
> archives" or "get an
> education" and it's becoming old. I would consider
> myself an
> experienced Exchange admin and there are sometimes
> when I'm baffled and
> though the answer may be out there, though hard to
> find, sometimes it's
> just easier to ask a collective group of people the
> question and get an
> answer back quicker. I'm not for writing a book to
> the user asking how
> to be an Exchange admin, but I am with Simon in the
> fact that this is a
> place where folks can come for help, and as long as
> anyone barks at
> those who come here for help the list will dwindle
> down. Hell, I'm
> scared to even ask a question, however hard it may
> be to me because I
> know that John is going to come back and make me
> feel like shit in front
> of the entire list, so I choose not to and I've
> considered just dropping
> the list all-together. When I first joined it
> seemed as though people
> actually helped on here, but lately there has been a
> lot of barking
> going on and it just doesn't seem like a Q&A list
> anymore. Just my 2
> cents.
>
> Donavon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Bound
> [mailto:simon.bound@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:19 AM
> To: [ExchangeList]
> Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Newbie using
> Exchange[Scanned]
>
> http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
> John - I have seen your responses to these type of
> queries before and in
> some cases i.e stopping relaying, disclaimers etc
> are inclined to take
> your view. However, this is an Internet forum where
> ideally users can
> come for information and "we" should be pointing
> them in the right
> direction even if it is only "read the forums and
> archives". We can
> however objectively put our point over rather than
> the SHOUTS that I
> recently see going on here. Yes you are right
> companies don't realise
> what's going on behind the send button - that's why
> they employ the
> likes of you and me and the poor sod who has to
> fight his way through
> Exchange with no training offered or ever likely to
> be (mainly due to
> the costs of the courses - and I know we could talk
> ages about THAT
> issue) . All I'm saying is take a step back 'cos
> people come to the
> forum for help and barking at them that they have no
> business using it
> helps no one. (Ok it gets'; if off your chest.....)
>
> Simon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Tolmachoff (Lists)
> [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:31 PM
> To: [ExchangeList]
> Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Newbie using
> Exchange[Scanned]
>
>
> http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
> If you want to play e-mail admin, you have to learn
> the ropes.
>
> There is no way any one can do justice by explaining
> briefly how e-mail
> and SMPT works.
>
> I am sorry, I IMHO, if you are not experienced with
> an e-mail server and
> SMTP, you have no business using it.
>
> People/companies like you that want their own mail
> server but have no
> clue of all the work that goes on behind "Send Now"
> button make my job
> and those of others that much harder, what with
> misconfigurations, bad
> records, open relays, poor policies and so forth.
>
>
>
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wayne James [mailto:wljames@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:40 PM
> > To: [ExchangeList]
> > Subject: [exchangelist] Newbie using Exchange
> >
> > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> >
> > Can anyone using a quick brief scenario explain to
> me what is envolved
>
> > with getting an exchange server to talk to the
> outside world. The
> > issue is I beleive I understand; I have built an
> exchange server BUT
> > the big piece that I was not a part of was dealing
> with the ISP and
> > Primary DNS Provider.
> >
> > Please Help
> >
> >
>
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> > List Archives:
> >
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> > Exchange Newsletters:
> http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp
> > Exchange FAQ:
>
http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ
> >
>
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> List Archives:
>
http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist
> Exchange Newsletters:
> http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp
> Exchange FAQ:
>
http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ
>
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> Other Internet Software Marketing Sites:
> Leading Network Software Directory:
> http://www.serverfiles.com
> No.1 ISA Server Resource Site:
> http://www.isaserver.org Windows Security
> Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/
> Network Security Library:
> http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax
> Solutions:
> http://www.ntfaxfaq.com
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>
>
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> List Archives:
>
http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist
> Exchange Newsletters:
> http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp
> Exchange FAQ:
>
http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ
>
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> Other Internet Software Marketing Sites:
> Leading Network Software Directory:
> http://www.serverfiles.com
> No.1 ISA Server Resource Site:
> http://www.isaserver.org Windows Security
> Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/
> Network Security Library:
> http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax
> Solutions:
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