RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC environment
- From: "Michael B. Smith" <michael@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:50:28 -0500
Knock yourself out.
I surely will not do it and will continue to recommend against it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:42 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC
environment
http://www.MSExchange.org/
Forgot to add:
Under VMware's ESX FAQ is clearly says:
What Types of Applications Can Enterprises Run with ESX Server?
ESX Server can run diverse guest operating systems concurrently in separate
virtual machines, and any application can run on these guest operating systems.
Customers commonly deploy the following applications within virtual machines:
Web And Application Services: Microsoft IIS, Apache, IBM WebSphere, Macromedia
ColdFusion, BEA WebLogic Application Server
Messaging: Microsoft Exchange, Lotus Notes, other POP and IMAP services
Databases: Oracle, DB2, Microsoft SQL*Server File and Print Services: Windows
file and print services Remote Session Access: Citrix MetaFrame, Windows
Terminal Services Enterprise Applications: SAP, Siebel, Peoplesoft, and Oracle
Applications Proxy Services: Squid, Netscape Proxy Server Network Services:
Microsoft Active Directory, iPlanet Directory Server, DHCP, DNS Custom
developed applications
With VMware Virtual SMP, an add-on module for ESX Server, you can now take
advantage of SMP capable enterprise applications such as Oracle, Microsoft SQL
Server, Microsoft Exchange server, SAP, Siebel, Lotus Notes, web servers, and
applications servers.
Enough said on this topic! :)
Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:28 AM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC
environment
http://www.MSExchange.org/
I don't know about MOC, but the KB article that defines the lack of support in
VM's is:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320220
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:27 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC
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Hi Steve,
Well tell that Bill Gates. I have seen Exchange 2003 running on GSX Server at
many places. Including my own box and EX doesn't know if it's running in the VM
world or the real world.
Also I would like you point out in the Microsoft Official curriculum for
Exchange 2000/2003 were it clearly says "Exchange is not supported on Virtual
Machines".
Regards,
Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 1:20 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC
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Exchange is NOT supported on Virtual Machines, including Microsoft's.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:27 AM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC
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Mohammed method is not the correct one. You can do it if you want but you will
only be sorry down the road. There are two methods which work best and they are:
1. depending on how many users are going to have, I think you said already 350
you can always have your client buy a monster machine, dual P4 XEON's 3.0Ghz
1Meg or higher, 4GB of RAM or more, and a very nice SCSI RAD system, not to
mention your NIC.
You would install Windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise (if standard doesn't
manage your hardware needs) server first then:
1. install all the crucial windows updates 2. install VMware GSX Server (you
could also use ESX Server with the above hardware) 3. setup a VM session for
Win2k3 Standard with the settings you need make it AD (DC) 4. install all the
crucial windows updates 5. run dcpromo and convert the server running in a VM
session to AD (DC).
Create a new VM session for your Exchange and do the following:
1. install all the crucial windows updates 2. install VMware GSX Server (you
could also use ESX Server with the above hardware) 3. setup a VM session for
Win2k3 Standard with the settings you need make it EX 4. install all the
crucial windows updates 5. join the server to the AD (DC) like you join your
workstations.
Take the Exchange CD and pop it in the CDROM drive then on your AD (DC) run the
following commands.
1. setup /forestprep
2. setup /domainprep
On your EX VM session run Setup off the same CD and your done. The thing to
remember is that you MUST run "update /forestprep" and "update /domainprep" on
the AD (DC) with Exchange SP1 before installing it on your EX machine.
As for how much resources to give your AD and EX VM machines. For offices that
are 5 to 10 users you can setup AD on 256MB RAM, and 4GB hard drive, EX on
512MB RAM, and 4GB hard drive.
The other method is to have two physical machines, one for AD the other for EX,
it will probably cost you more in the end to buy two servers than it would to
buy one monster server and run GSX or ESX from VMware on it.
Regards,
Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: Mohammed Tantawi [mailto:mtantawi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:51 AM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC
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Dear Tim,
The First thing you will do is join the server to the domain with the normal
way .
For example if you have your domain controller with this name ( DC1) , and you
have already 20 users inside this domain , all what you have to do is :-
1. Bring New PC and install on it Windows 2000 Advanced server .
2. Name this PC with this Name " mail".
3.join this PC to the domain .
4.log in to this PC with the Administrator Account ( Enterprise Administrator ).
5. Put your exchange CD in the CD Drive , and run the following command (
setup/forestprep ).
6. the same command but ( setup/domainprep ).
7. after that complete the setup Normal.
8. then restart your server ( mail ) and then you will see your exchange is
working on line ) .
Please test this is on the Testing Pc's only . and inform me
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Jordan [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 10 ذو القعدة, 1425 01:52 ص
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC
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Most of your answers are at the Microsoft web site. The big thing is to backup
because your going to be altering the AD schema when adding Exchange. So do a
good work of reading first, because the order of setup is critical for you.
TJ
-----Original Message-----
From: A. M. Salim [mailto:msalim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:21 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC environment
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Hi,
One of my customers has a current, active AD and DC already installed and
running in their organization but they do not have an Exchange server.
Now they want to add an Exchange 2003 Standard server. They want the Exchange
server to fit into the existing AD.
I am used to setting up a stand-alone Exchange server in a brand new
environment where I also set up the AD and DC on the same server but not this
scenario with an existing and operational AD. So what is the best way to
install Exchange 2003 in this scenario? How do I enable the new Exchange
server in the existing AD? Once it is in the AD, how do I mail-enable selected
users so their email will be going through Exchange?
There will be about 350 users, is there a way to script this?
TIA!
Mike Salim
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