RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC environment

  • From: "Andrew English" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:41:39 -0500

Forgot to add:

Under VMware's ESX FAQ is clearly says:

What Types of Applications Can Enterprises Run with ESX Server?
ESX Server can run diverse guest operating systems concurrently in separate 
virtual machines, and any application can run on these guest operating systems. 
Customers commonly deploy the following applications within virtual machines: 

Web And Application Services: Microsoft IIS, Apache, IBM WebSphere, Macromedia 
ColdFusion, BEA WebLogic Application Server 
Messaging: Microsoft Exchange, Lotus Notes, other POP and IMAP services 
Databases: Oracle, DB2, Microsoft SQL*Server 
File and Print Services: Windows file and print services 
Remote Session Access: Citrix MetaFrame, Windows Terminal Services 
Enterprise Applications: SAP, Siebel, Peoplesoft, and Oracle Applications 
Proxy Services: Squid, Netscape Proxy Server 
Network Services: Microsoft Active Directory, iPlanet Directory Server, DHCP, 
DNS 
Custom developed applications 

With VMware Virtual SMP, an add-on module for ESX Server, you can now take 
advantage of SMP capable enterprise applications such as Oracle, Microsoft SQL 
Server, Microsoft Exchange server, SAP, Siebel, Lotus Notes, web servers, and 
applications servers.

Enough said on this topic! :)

Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:28 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC 
environment

http://www.MSExchange.org/

I don't know about MOC, but the KB article that defines the lack of support in 
VM's is:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320220 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:27 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC 
environment

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Hi Steve, 

Well tell that Bill Gates. I have seen Exchange 2003 running on GSX Server at 
many places. Including my own box and EX doesn't know if it's running in the VM 
world or the real world. 

Also I would like you point out in the Microsoft Official curriculum for 
Exchange 2000/2003 were it clearly says "Exchange is not supported on Virtual 
Machines".

Regards,
Andrew




-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 1:20 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC 
environment

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Exchange is NOT supported on Virtual Machines, including Microsoft's.

Steve 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:27 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC 
environment

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Mohammed method is not the correct one. You can do it if you want but you will 
only be sorry down the road. There are two methods which work best and they are:

1. depending on how many users are going to have, I think you said already 350 
you can always have your client buy a monster machine, dual P4 XEON's 3.0Ghz 
1Meg or higher, 4GB of RAM or more, and a very nice SCSI RAD system, not to 
mention your NIC. 

You would install Windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise (if standard doesn't 
manage your hardware needs) server first then:

1. install all the crucial windows updates 2. install VMware GSX Server (you 
could also use ESX Server with the above hardware) 3. setup a VM session for 
Win2k3 Standard with the settings you need make it AD (DC) 4. install all the 
crucial windows updates 5. run dcpromo and convert the server running in a VM 
session to AD (DC).

Create a new VM session for your Exchange and do the following:

1. install all the crucial windows updates 2. install VMware GSX Server (you 
could also use ESX Server with the above hardware) 3. setup a VM session for 
Win2k3 Standard with the settings you need make it EX 4. install all the 
crucial windows updates 5. join the server to the AD (DC) like you join your 
workstations.

Take the Exchange CD and pop it in the CDROM drive then on your AD (DC) run the 
following commands. 

1. setup /forestprep
2. setup /domainprep

On your EX VM session run Setup off the same CD and your done. The thing to 
remember is that you MUST run "update /forestprep" and "update /domainprep" on 
the AD (DC) with Exchange SP1 before installing it on your EX machine.

As for how much resources to give your AD and EX VM machines. For offices that 
are 5 to 10 users you can setup AD on 256MB RAM, and 4GB hard drive, EX on 
512MB RAM, and 4GB hard drive.


The other method is to have two physical machines, one for AD the other for EX, 
it will probably cost you more in the end to buy two servers than it would to 
buy one monster server and run GSX or ESX from VMware on it.

Regards,
Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: Mohammed Tantawi [mailto:mtantawi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:51 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC 
environment

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Dear Tim, 

The First thing you will do is join the server to the domain with the normal 
way . 

For example if you have your domain controller with this name ( DC1) , and you 
have already 20 users inside this domain , all what you have to do is :-

1. Bring New PC and install on it Windows 2000 Advanced server .
2. Name this PC with this Name " mail".
3.join this PC to the domain .
4.log in to this PC with the Administrator Account ( Enterprise Administrator ).
5. Put your exchange CD in the CD Drive , and run the following command ( 
setup/forestprep ).
6. the same command but ( setup/domainprep ). 
7. after that complete the setup Normal.
8. then restart your server ( mail ) and then you will see your exchange is 
working on line ) .


Please test this is on the Testing Pc's only . and inform me 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Jordan [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 10 ذو القعدة, 1425 01:52 ص
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC 
environment

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Most of your answers are at the Microsoft web site.  The big thing is to backup 
because your going to be altering the AD schema when adding Exchange.  So do a 
good work of reading first, because the order of setup is critical for you.

TJ 

-----Original Message-----
From: A. M. Salim [mailto:msalim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:21 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC environment

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Hi,

One of my customers has a current, active AD and DC already installed and 
running in their organization but they do not have an Exchange server.
Now they want to add an Exchange 2003 Standard server.  They want the Exchange 
server to fit into the existing AD.

I am used to setting up a stand-alone Exchange server in a brand new 
environment where I also set up the AD and DC on the same server but not this 
scenario with an existing and operational AD.  So what is the best way to 
install Exchange 2003 in this scenario?  How do I enable the new Exchange 
server in the existing AD?  Once it is in the AD, how do I mail-enable selected 
users so their email will be going through Exchange?
There will be about 350 users, is there a way to script this?

TIA!

Mike Salim


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