[ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
- From: Patrick <london31uk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:51:54 -0800 (PST)
The logs from the ISA server can be found below. My understanding is that a successful smtp connection was established, but not sure why nothing went through.
Original Client IP
Transport
GMT Log Time
Source Port
Processing Time
Bytes Sent
Bytes Received
Cache Information
Error Information
Log Time
Client IP
Destination IP
Destination Port
Protocol
Action
Rule
Result Code
HTTP Status Code
Client Username
Source Network
Destination Network
URL
Server Name
Log Record Type
10.19.249.17
TCP
07/02/2008 08:58
5533
68000
144
0
0x0
0x0
07/02/2008 08:58
10.19.249.17
215.8.30.24
25
SMTP
Closed Connection
SMTP Outbound
0x80074e20 FWX_E_GRACEFUL_SHUTDOWN
-
Internal
External
ISA03
Firewall
10.19.249.17
TCP
07/02/2008 08:57
5533
0
0
0
0x0
0x0
07/02/2008 08:57
10.19.249.17
215.8.30.24
25
SMTP
Initiated Connection
SMTP Outbound
0x0
-
Internal
External
ISA03
Firewall
10.19.249.17
TCP
07/02/2008 08:51
3420
70000
144
0
0x0
0x0
07/02/2008 08:51
10.19.249.17
215.8.30.24
25
SMTP
Closed Connection
SMTP Outbound
0x80074e20 FWX_E_GRACEFUL_SHUTDOWN
-
Internal
External
ISA03
Firewall
10.19.249.17
TCP
07/02/2008 08:51
3419
70000
144
0
0x0
0x0
07/02/2008 08:51
10.19.249.17
215.8.30.24
25
SMTP
Closed Connection
SMTP Outbound
0x80074e20 FWX_E_GRACEFUL_SHUTDOWN
-
Internal
External
ISA03
Firewall
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael B. Smith <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:58:31 PM
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
What did the detailed SMTP logs tell you?
From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:43 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
this only applies to one domain, others work ok. we strongly suspect the ISP, but still trying to pin it down
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael B. Smith <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:58:21 PM
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
You can disable edns-0 without any harm.
However, if NO e-mail is getting through, that isn’t the problem. EDNS-0 almost always affects only large sites (like yahoo, excite, aol, etc.)
Enabled details smtp protocol logs and see what they say.
From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:40 AM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
Hi Guys,
any input on this would be greatly appreciated. We can telnet the smtp relay box, but nothing seems to get through. everyone seems to think this is not thier problem. Somehow we feel it is the ISP's but they are not taking responsibility for this.
Any Ideas please
----- Original Message ----
From: Patrick <london31uk@xxxxxxxxx>
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:00:42 PM
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
Hi,
Someone recommended we do the following. Not quite sure this does. Please advice
Turning off EDNS-0 extended UDP packets in W2k3 server's DNS.
(EDNS0 as defined in RFC 2671)
Server 2003's DNS server has a new capability, it can handle UDP packets greater than 512 bytes. Unfortunately some firewalls cannot pass these packets so it is desirable to have the DNS server fall back to TCP in this case as it used to do in previous versions of NT DNS.
To turn off the EDNS-0 feature run this from a command prompt:
dnscmd /Config /EnableEDnsProbes 0
Once you run this your W2K3 DNS server will never advertise its EDNS capabilities and so will never receive a UDP packet > 512 bytes.
dnscmd.exe can be found in the Support Tools.
To install Windows Support Tools
- Insert the Windows CD into your CD-ROM drive.
- Click No if you are prompted to reinstall Windows .
- When the Welcome screen appears, click Perform additional tasks, and then click Browse this CD.
- Go to the \Support\Tools folder.
For complete setup information, refer to the Readme.asp file available in this folder.
- Double-click suptools.msi.
- Follow the instructions that appear on your screen.
----- Original Message ----
From: "Kamuni, Prabhakar" <Prabhakar.Kamuni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:21:58 PM
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
If your able to receive and send mails through other domains…still you need to have a look at the below points.
Network connectivity issues you can check using trace route to the problematic domain.
Find out with remote domain administrator if your domain has block listed in there Database
Try telnet from your exchange server to Remote domain (C:\telenet problemdomain.com 25 )
Thanks and Regards
PRABHAKAR KAMUNI | System Analyst| Enterprise Computing Group
Unisys Global Services India | 135/1 Residency Road | Bangalore | Business Phone +91 4159 4828|Net 7594828
THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:56 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
Should this be done on mine server though? eveb though I can send and recevie from other domains and can send to the problematic domain, but can not receive
Thanks
----- Original Message ----
From: "Kamuni, Prabhakar" <Prabhakar.Kamuni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:47:49 PM
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
Hi,
Please have a look at the below, it can be any of the below issue.
1) Network connectivity issues
2) You might be blocked by Remote server
3) Try to telnet 25 to the remote server and see what the response you can see?
4) Do you use ISP Smart Host for delivering Emails or you got own SMTP server?
5) Finally Check the DNS. ( check FQDN is valid for SMTP Virtual server)
If the issue will not resolve please increase the Diagnosis logging for MSExchange Transport.
Cheers!!!
Prabhu
Thanks and Regards
PRABHAKAR KAMUNI | System Analyst| Enterprise Computing Group
Unisys Global Services India | 135/1 Residency Road | Bangalore | Business Phone +91 4159 4828|Net 7594828
THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:51 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
Hi guys,
Not quite sure why this is happening. But we can send emails to people ok, but we are having problems from a particular domain. Other domains can send to us ok.
When we send a mail to the domain it arrives ok, but users can not reply to our message. They keep getting the 4.4.7 NDR with message delayed and then timeout.
If anyone can point us in the right direction it would be helpful, cos a lot of steam and trouble is brewing over this.
Windows 2003 Domain, Exchange 2003 SP2. Mail Marshall for filtering.
Thanks
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| Original Client IP | Transport | GMT Log Time | Source Port | Processing Time | Bytes Sent | Bytes Received | Cache Information | Error Information | Log Time | Client IP | Destination IP | Destination Port | Protocol | Action | Rule | Result Code | HTTP Status Code | Client Username | Source Network | Destination Network | URL | Server Name | Log Record Type |
| 10.19.249.17 | TCP | 07/02/2008 08:58 | 5533 | 68000 | 144 | 0 | 0x0 | 0x0 | 07/02/2008 08:58 | 10.19.249.17 | 215.8.30.24 | 25 | SMTP | Closed Connection | SMTP Outbound | 0x80074e20 FWX_E_GRACEFUL_SHUTDOWN | - | Internal | External | ISA03 | Firewall | ||
| 10.19.249.17 | TCP | 07/02/2008 08:57 | 5533 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0x0 | 0x0 | 07/02/2008 08:57 | 10.19.249.17 | 215.8.30.24 | 25 | SMTP | Initiated Connection | SMTP Outbound | 0x0 | - | Internal | External | ISA03 | Firewall | ||
| 10.19.249.17 | TCP | 07/02/2008 08:51 | 3420 | 70000 | 144 | 0 | 0x0 | 0x0 | 07/02/2008 08:51 | 10.19.249.17 | 215.8.30.24 | 25 | SMTP | Closed Connection | SMTP Outbound | 0x80074e20 FWX_E_GRACEFUL_SHUTDOWN | - | Internal | External | ISA03 | Firewall | ||
| 10.19.249.17 | TCP | 07/02/2008 08:51 | 3419 | 70000 | 144 | 0 | 0x0 | 0x0 | 07/02/2008 08:51 | 10.19.249.17 | 215.8.30.24 | 25 | SMTP | Closed Connection | SMTP Outbound | 0x80074e20 FWX_E_GRACEFUL_SHUTDOWN | - | Internal | External | ISA03 | Firewall |
From: Michael B. Smith <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:58:31 PM
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
What did the detailed SMTP logs tell you?
From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:43 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
this only applies to one domain, others work ok. we strongly suspect the ISP, but still trying to pin it down
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael B. Smith <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:58:21 PM
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
You can disable edns-0 without any harm.
However, if NO e-mail is getting through, that isn’t the problem. EDNS-0 almost always affects only large sites (like yahoo, excite, aol, etc.)
Enabled details smtp protocol logs and see what they say.
From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:40 AM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
Hi Guys,
any input on this would be greatly appreciated. We can telnet the smtp relay box, but nothing seems to get through. everyone seems to think this is not thier problem. Somehow we feel it is the ISP's but they are not taking responsibility for this.
Any Ideas please
----- Original Message ----
From: Patrick <london31uk@xxxxxxxxx>
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:00:42 PM
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
Hi,
Someone recommended we do the following. Not quite sure this does. Please advice
Turning off EDNS-0 extended UDP packets in W2k3 server's DNS.
(EDNS0 as defined in RFC 2671)
Server 2003's DNS server has a new capability, it can handle UDP packets greater than 512 bytes. Unfortunately some firewalls cannot pass these packets so it is desirable to have the DNS server fall back to TCP in this case as it used to do in previous versions of NT DNS.
To turn off the EDNS-0 feature run this from a command prompt:
dnscmd /Config /EnableEDnsProbes 0
Once you run this your W2K3 DNS server will never advertise its EDNS capabilities and so will never receive a UDP packet > 512 bytes.
dnscmd.exe can be found in the Support Tools.
To install Windows Support Tools
- Insert the Windows CD into your CD-ROM drive.
- Click No if you are prompted to reinstall Windows .
- When the Welcome screen appears, click Perform additional tasks, and then click Browse this CD.
- Go to the \Support\Tools folder.
For complete setup information, refer to the Readme.asp file available in this folder.
- Double-click suptools.msi.
- Follow the instructions that appear on your screen.
----- Original Message ----
From: "Kamuni, Prabhakar" <Prabhakar.Kamuni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:21:58 PM
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
If your able to receive and send mails through other domains…still you need to have a look at the below points.
Network connectivity issues you can check using trace route to the problematic domain.
Find out with remote domain administrator if your domain has block listed in there Database
Try telnet from your exchange server to Remote domain (C:\telenet problemdomain.com 25 )
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From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:56 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
Should this be done on mine server though? eveb though I can send and recevie from other domains and can send to the problematic domain, but can not receive
Thanks
----- Original Message ----
From: "Kamuni, Prabhakar" <Prabhakar.Kamuni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:47:49 PM
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
Hi,
Please have a look at the below, it can be any of the below issue.
1) Network connectivity issues
2) You might be blocked by Remote server
3) Try to telnet 25 to the remote server and see what the response you can see?
4) Do you use ISP Smart Host for delivering Emails or you got own SMTP server?
5) Finally Check the DNS. ( check FQDN is valid for SMTP Virtual server)
If the issue will not resolve please increase the Diagnosis logging for MSExchange Transport.
Cheers!!!
Prabhu
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Thanks and Regards | |||
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From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:51 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] NDR 4.4.7 Could not deliver the message in the time limit specified
Hi guys,
Not quite sure why this is happening. But we can send emails to people ok, but we are having problems from a particular domain. Other domains can send to us ok.
When we send a mail to the domain it arrives ok, but users can not reply to our message. They keep getting the 4.4.7 NDR with message delayed and then timeout.
If anyone can point us in the right direction it would be helpful, cos a lot of steam and trouble is brewing over this.
Windows 2003 Domain, Exchange 2003 SP2. Mail Marshall for filtering.
Thanks
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