RE: LDAP problem

  • From: "steve alcock" <steve.alcock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ExchangeList]'" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:37:02 -0000

Al.

Peter has finished for the day, I will pass this to him tomorrow for his
comments and come back to you but I have answered some of the below.


>That makes no sense.  

agree

>If the app runs on the workstation and fails AND is a permissions
issue,
>then it stands to reason that it would show up in the security logs of
the
>DC since that is where the failure occurred.  You may have to turn on
that
>audit logging if not already enabled, but permissions have to go to the
DC
>for success/failure. 

Will check this for tomorrow 

>As for the other troubleshooting, did you only google for an answer and
>determine that it doesn't work?  I find that hard to believe.  And
since
>2003 is more restrictive in it's security stance, permissions aren't
the
>likely cause if it works against 2003 vs. 2000.  That's not to say it
>couldn't be, but it's more likely something else that's different in
your
>environment. 

Technet, m/s etc etc 

>I've written many apps that run against 2000 and 2003 domain
controllers >and
>they work fine.  The *only* time I would consider putting something on
the
>Exchange server directly is if the application required it due to
>application binaries.  CDOEXM would be one such example.  However, I
would
>personally just install the needed supporting binaries vs. doing that.


Cannot comment will hand to peter 

>Can you post the failing snippet of code and the AD interaction
section?
>Else send it off-line?

>That might be more helpful in this case.  

Will pass to peter


Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: steve alcock [mailto:steve.alcock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:00 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: LDAP problem

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>Give some more information.  What is the app and what language is it?

Visual basic to read e-phone call logs ( these are call records in and
out
of the company )

>Why do you think that running it on the Exchange server would cause it
to
>work?  

Running pete's program on the win2000 server he can read in the current
users in the active directory, but running the same program on a
workstation
it is very hap hazard if it cannot connect to the active directory error
message the data base is not available. 

>Permissions issues (Exchange servers have different permissions of 
>course, but that's no excuse for that type of programming, right?)

that's what we thought

>What exact symptoms are you seeing and what has been done to
troubleshoot >to date?  For example, if a permissions issue, you could
see
that in the >logs.

We have trawled the net for fun hence the running on the server as
someone
suggested but they ( or anyone else to date can give us the solution ).

Nothing is reported in the log 

Just for the record running the same program on a workstation connected
to a
win 2003 server and it works fine ?

Hence a permissions / security issue in win 2000 server we think

Got us stumped 


steve
-----Original Message-----
From: steve alcock [mailto:steve.alcock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:29 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] LDAP problem

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Hi all,

 

Windows server 2000 & exchange server.............

 

 

One of our staff is writing a program to read VoIP call files and to
marry
them up with network users via Ldap to read the active directory users
but
it is very hit and miss as to connecting to the service, reading the web
many people have this problem but no one gives a complete answer the
only
real clue is if we run the app on the exchange server it is ok but a
workstation is hap hazard, it seems something has to be set on the
server to
allow the workstations the same access as if running it on the server
but I
cannot find anything in security policies etc anyone shed a light on
what
needs altering on the server please??????

 

Steve

 

 

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phone : +44 (0) 1282 871717

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Boza [mailto:rickb@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 29 November 2004 16:09
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Instant Messaging

 

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So to make sure we understand, you already have an E2K org in place (on
an
Win2K3 server) and wanted to add the IM functionality to it?

You're not really playing around with this in your production org, are
you?

Anyhow, this tech rides on the Exchange 2000 technology - if I recall
correctly, you can't have the IM functionality up and running without
Exchange 2000 present as well.  The schema needs to be extended (which
you
presumably did since you're seeing the IM capabilities in ADUC) but it
needs
to be fully configured from within ESM before you can enable it for
users.

Note I'm working from (admittedly slipping) memory here - I worked with
this
for a couple clients in years past but not recently.

Maybe go thru step by step what you did so we can be sure we understand
-
and I really really suggest playing around with it on a couple test
boxes
before you go any further and wind up breaking something you didn't want
to.

Rick


On 11/29/04 10:58 AM, "Mark Fugatt" <markfu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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I would recommend you go with Live Communication Server, personally I
don't
think Exchange 2000 IM on a Windows 2003 server is a supported
installation.

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From: Edwin [mailto:msexchange@xxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:msexchange@xxxxxxxxxx%5d>
Sent: 29 November 2004 15:39
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] Instant Messaging

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We would like to make use of the MSN Instant messaging service within
our
domain.  Our DC's are both Win2K3 standard Edition and our Exchange
Server
is Win2K Advanced.
 
I installed the Instant Messaging software from the Exchange 2000 CD
onto a
Win2K3 Standard machine that is a member server.  I understand that
Exchange
2000 is not compatible with Win2K3 however I am not using the mail
services
and thought I would give it a try before re-installing the server I
intend
to use.
 
Basically, on the Win2K3 machine I installed the software and System
Manager.  When I go to the "Exchange Features" tab, of the user I intend
to
use, I click on "Enable" and I am asked for a IM Home Server.  The
problem
is that the "Browse" button is disabled.
 
Is this because of Win2K vs. Win2K3 with Exchange 2000 (possibly)?  Or
is
there a step that I am missing?
 
P.S. Why not use Exchange 2003?  For licensing reasons.
P.P.S.  Why do you want to use IM?  Because we are currently using an
antiquated version of ICQ Corporate Edition on an old NT4 domain that I
want
to get rid of and this will be the final step.
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