Re: Job interview(OT)

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:08:46 -0500

Hi Jason,
 
It does seem like they're getting aggressive with hiring the best people they 
find out in the community. I think they're head hunters have actually learned 
how to mine newsgroups, mailing lists and Web sites :)
 
Can't say what they look for in a resume. I never submitted one, not even after 
the job offer was made. They just needed to search Thomas Shinder on google and 
talk to some of the other product groups that I've done consulting work for in 
the past. 
 
There's no one size fits all method. But a good general approach is, good very 
good at a couple of things you really like doing, and then try to be the 
world's expert in those areas. Even if you don't end up being the world's 
expert, you'll be a lot better off for trying. Then contribute to the MS 
newsgroups and mailing lists like this one. Always be professional, never have 
a negative word about anyone or anything, and comes up with good answers that 
solve common and uncommon problems. People will notice you, and they will tell 
others, and MS ends up finding out that you're good.
 
Get lots of hands-on experience. Production network experience is a must, 
because you must be able to understand the stresses and strains, and the 
realities of troubleshooting on live production devices. You just can't get 
that type of emotional and intellectual experience on lab networks. However, 
you should put many many hours in lab networks too. Try to deploy simple 
scenarios first. Start by doing step by steps by following the instructions. 
Then repeat the step by step procedures, but do it from memory and based on 
your understanding of the why you're performing the procedures.
 
There you go. Sheesh, I haven't doled out career advice for almost five years 
:))
 
HTH,
Tom
 
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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        From: Jason Davis [mailto:JDavis@xxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:59 AM
        To: [ExchangeList]
        Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Job interview(OT)
        
        
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        Thomas,
         
        Thanks for the response regarding the MS interviewing process.  I met a 
MS employee at a wedding this past weekend, and he said MS are on a hiring 
rampage.  I'd LOVE to work for MS myself, but I'm concerned my tech skills lay 
outside their forte (I have worked in the Industrial Controls industry for the 
past 8 yrs, but I handle the "IT" responsibilities and interface with many MS 
products on a daily basis).
         
        Any advice on how to "spice up" a resume?  What flags would MS be 
looking for, in terms of resumes?
         
        Thanks for any advice!
         
        --Jason Davis

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        From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:05 AM
        To: [ExchangeList]
        Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Job interview(OT)
        
        
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        I had the opportunity to interview for a position with MS. I have to 
say that the people at MS are the nicest and most professional group of people 
I've ever had the pleasure to meet. The interview process was fun and I got to 
know a lot about them and they got to know a lot about me. They offered me a 
position, but I couldn't convince my wife to accept the pay cut I would have 
had would be worth it. MS would have been a great place to work and I hope that 
in the future I can convince my wife that I should give it another chance.
         
        Don't fear the interview process. Be yourself, be honest, put your best 
foot forward, and you'll do well. You'll learn a lot when you start working 
with them.
         
        Tom
         
        Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
        Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
        Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
        Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> 
        MVP -- ISA Firewalls
        **Who is John Galt?**

         


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                From: Tom Kern [mailto:tpkern@xxxxxxxxx] 
                Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:05 AM
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                Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Job interview(OT)
                
                
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                Thanks, Manju!
                 
                I'd love to work at MS.
                 
                So far i was contacted last week and had a 25min HR type 
interview on the phone.
                The recruiter then said he would call this week for a 30min 
phone tech interview and if that went well, I would be called in for a face to 
face.
                I haven't heard from him yet to set up the tech phone interview.
                 
                As i said, the only thing i'm kinda nervous about is Exchange 
5.5 questions as i haven't touched an exchange 5.5 server in about 3.5 years.
                 
                Thanks for taking an interest!
                 


                 
                On 10/27/05, manju <manjunatha.bn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

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                        Hey Buddy,
                        
                        I'm Manju, work for MICROSOFT Exchange admin team. 
                        
                        interviews at MS are little tricky. let me explain......
                        
                        initial iterviews will be on your technical ability to 
solve problems,
                        next would your communication skills.
                        
                        go ahead and take them you will enjoy life @ MS. 
                        
                        let me know if I can help you.
                        
                        Take care
                        Manju
                        
                        
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                        > Guess you'll have to handle big trouble in short time 
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                        > >>> tpkern@xxxxxxxxx 21/10/2005 17:53 >>>
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                        > Sorry for the OT, but I just got a job interview with 
Microsoft for a Rapid
                        > Response Exchange engineer and I was wondering what 
to expect.
                        > The first interview is a phone tech interview and if 
i do ok on that I get a 
                        > in person one.
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                        > Anyone on the list ever go through this or know what 
its like?
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