Exchange is the Cadillac of e-mail servers. However, you do not see many Cadillacs pulling a gardening trailer do you? Much to Mark's ir, you might want to look into using a 3rd party gateway/spam filtering/virus blocking service. Trying to create and maintain a rule set to fight spam, as the spammers will always be steps ahead of you, unless you dedicate the time needed. If you want to trial a product, one that I know about and helped on during the beta periods is Alligate. http://www.alligate.com/ And no Mark, I am in no way affiliated with them. If you do want to talk to them, ask for Brian and mention my name. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -----Original Message----- From: Knutsen, Vicki [mailto:vickik@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:00 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: I get mail from some and not others http://www.MSExchange.org/ Yea But the exchange server was kind of expensive and it doesn't do such a good job of filtering spam -so does that mean that we got what we paid for? You would think an email server would do that piece well! But I do understand your warning- isn't free better than nothing if it blocks one email effectively? I am so sick of SPAM and the filtering on Exchange 2000 isn't worth much really. Vicki -----Original Message----- From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:47 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: I get mail from some and not others http://www.MSExchange.org/ WARNING! Fighting spam and free are opposites. If you expect to be able to do this for free, you are not serious about fighting spam. It is going to cost, either in time or technology, or both. It is like the old saying, you get what you pay for. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -----Original Message----- From: Knutsen, Vicki [mailto:vickik@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:47 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: I get mail from some and not others http://www.MSExchange.org/ Marvin Let me know if this turns out to be the problem - I am looking for a free way to filter spam that doesn't cut off communications with the rest of the world - so if this is not the culprit - I may try it too! Vicki -----Original Message----- From: Marvin Cummings [mailto:mcummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:58 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: I get mail from some and not others http://www.MSExchange.org/ Yep. Turns out they're using GFI mail essentials which may be sending it to another folder. Checking now. -----Original Message----- From: Knutsen, Vicki [mailto:vickik@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:48 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: I get mail from some and not others http://www.MSExchange.org/ Are you using Exchange filtering at all for spam - I tried this and then suddenly certain clients could not get their email to go through - I had to remove all the filters and start over - Vicki -----Original Message----- From: Marvin Cummings [mailto:mcummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:42 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] I get mail from some and not others http://www.MSExchange.org/ I have a strange problem where I'm not getting mail from all external users. 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