Hi all, Before anyone says anything, I know this is bad before I even start but ....... I had Exchange 2000 (SMTP port 1025) being fed by Vpop3 (Standard ports) until some muppet (apprentice) decided he liked the look of GFI MailSecurity. Although I am a fan, he didn't test it and just loaded it on!! After receiving no mail to the exchange server for a few hours he asked me why! I removed GFI and checked every setting I know of (not an expert but competent) and everything was set back to normal - but still no mail. Vpop3 is downloading the messages and forwarding them to the exchange server but they never arrive. Also, you can't send internal mail - it just doesn't get there, I have a feeling this may be the key but can't work out why! I have worked out the following so far. If you send an email to a non-local recipient it gets sent from Exchange to Vpop3 for it to send. Exchange started sending NDR's out saying Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, because the message was forwarded more than the maximum allowed times. This could indicate a mail loop. Received: from homer ([10.0.0.254]) by homer.humberts.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:22:35 +0100 Received: from 10.0.0.254 by homer ([10.0.0.254] running VPOP3) with ESMTP for < <mailto:pbowness@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> pbowness@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:20:22 +0100 Received: from homer ([10.0.0.254]) by homer.humberts.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:52:11 +0100 Received: from 10.0.0.254 by homer ([10.0.0.254] running VPOP3) with ESMTP for < <mailto:pbowness@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> pbowness@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 18:00:37 +0100 Received: from homer ([10.0.0.254]) by homer.humberts.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:35:54 +0100 Received: from 10.0.0.254 by homer ([10.0.0.254] running VPOP3) with ESMTP for < <mailto:pbowness@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> pbowness@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:13:04 +0100 Received: from homer ([10.0.0.254]) by homer.humberts.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:05:55 +0100 Received: from 10.0.0.254 by homer ([10.0.0.254] running VPOP3) with ESMTP for < <mailto:pbowness@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> pbowness@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:04:55 +0100 Received: from homer ([10.0.0.254]) by homer.humberts.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:04:55 +0100 So after a bit of advice, I disabled the Pop3 service in Exchange. I am starting to get desperate now - I'd rather not have to rebuild the Exchange server I hope someone has an idea - but if I've missed some details that you need just let me know. ...Spence PS - I'm on the lookout for very slow and painful ways of hurting someone - these are also most welcome!