RE: Exch2k3 migration to different AD, Forest

  • From: "A. Michael Salim" <msalim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:06:51 -0400 (EDT)

Thanks Raj!

If I also wanted to migrate the passwords , the CSVDE file does not
contain that info if I am not mistaken, but LDIFDE does - could I then run
a LDIFDE import, and if so, which fields would I need to import in LDIFDE
just to update the password and nothing else?

Or would it be better to skip CSVDE, and just use LDIFDE and import the
fields you listed plus the field that contains the password info (I have
not been able to identify the exact LDIFDE field that contains the
password.

Best regards
Mike

> Here is a list of attribs that I found in the CSV files I used a while
> ago,
>
> For user objects:
> CN,cn,countryCode,description,displayName,distinguishedName,objectCatego
> ry,objectClass,sAMAccountName,comment,givenName,sn,physicalDeliveryOffic
> eName,c,initials,co,title,info,company,l,postalCode,st,telephoneNumber,d
> epartment,facsimileTelephoneNumber,otherHomePhone,homePhone,mobile,other
> Telephone,pager,telephoneAssistant,directReports,postOfficeBox,otherMobi
> le
>
> For OU objects:
> DN,objectClass,ou
>
> For group objects:
> DN,member,cn,displayName,objectClass,name,sAMAccountName,member
>
>
> HTH.
> Regards,
> Raj Periyasamy
> Systems Administrator
> MCSE(Messaging), CCNA
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A. Michael Salim [mailto:msalim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:25 PM
> To: [ExchangeList]
> Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Exch2k3 migration to different AD, Forest
>
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>
> Hello Raj,
>
> A while back you described the steps needed for migrating from one
> location to another.  I had some specific questions on some steps.  I
> have
> included your original email whole, so as to keep the flow.  My
> questions
> are in between your suggestion list.  There are two questions, both to
> do
> with the CSVDE method only:
>
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Periyasamy, Raj wrote:
> > Mike,
> > You have a typical situation here.
> > I would think of doing the following,
> >
> > 1) Create a most recent full backup of your exchange IS and ship it to
> > the new location.
> > 2) Create CSVDE files of user object, groups DLs and ship it to the
> new
> > location.
>
> QUESTION #1: Do you have a suggested list of the fields which I should
> import (or exclude, if that is shorter)?  or should I export everything
> (the CSVDE default).
>
> > 3) In the new location Install Exchange, import the CSVDE files to the
> > AD. DO not mail enable any users yet, you have to make sure the CSVDE
> > does not have email attributes.
>
> QUESTION: Which fields should I import exactly (and which to avoid so as
> not to mail-enable the users)?  Or can CSVDE take care of mail-enabling
> as
> a separate step?
>
> TIA!
>
> Best regards
> Mike.
>
> > 4) Then restore the backup from the other location and redirect to the
> > new server. Make sure you create a Mailbox store with the identical
> name
> > as the other location for this to work.
> >
> > 5) Once the restore is done, run a clean up of the mailboxes, then use
> > the MBConnect (Mailbox connect) utility to connect the existing user
> > objects to the restored mailboxes. MBConnect should automatically link
> > the mailbox to the corresponding user based on the alias name.
> >
> > 6) I have done this in a test environment. I suggest you play around
> > with MDBconnect before implementing in production.
> >
> > 7) The reason I don't favor PST file method is, it is more time
> > consuming, and it grows the size of your priv.ed as all single
> instance
> > storage is lost.
> >
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Raj
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A. Michael Salim [mailto:msalim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:06 AM
> > To: [ExchangeList]
> > Subject: [exchangelist] Exch2k3 migration to different AD, Forest
> >
> > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am migrating an Exchange server with about 100 users from one
> > Geographical location to another.  There are about 100 mailboxes and
> > over
> > 100GB of mailbox space so migrating all content over the Internet is
> not
> > feasible.  Furthermore, the new and old Exchange servers are not
> related
> > to
> > each other in any way such as AD, GC, Forest, and no trust
> > relationships.
> > It is a pure Internet (TCP/IP and no NetBios etc) interconnection
> > between
> > old and new servers, not even a VPN.
> >
> > Here is the procedure I am following:
> >
> > a) On the old sever, use Exmerge to export the mailboxes to PST files
> > and
> > save to a USB drive Use CSVDE and LDIFDE to export the users and
> groups
> > and save to same USB drive.
> >
> > b) Ship USB drive to new location.
> >
> > c) On new server, used LDIFDE and/or CSVDE to recreate users and
> groups.
> >
> > d) On new server, import all the PST files 9which by now are a few
> days
> > old).
> >
> > My questions are:
> >
> > 1) Is this a "best practice" method for these circumstances or is
> there
> > a
> > better way to do this?
> >
> > 2) After all the users are created and mailboxes imported, how do I
> > "synchronize" the two servers (old and new) so that the mailboxes on
> the
> > new server are "up to date" before I switch over the DNS?  Otherwise I
> > will either have a gap of a few days in the mailboxes, or I will need
> to
> > all Exchange services completely on the old server for 1-2 days while
> > the
> > USB drive is being exported, shipped, and imported? (the incoming
> email
> > would be diverted to a store-and-forward secondary mailserver during
> > this
> > process, of course).  Needless to say, stopping the Exchange server
> for
> > any length of time is not feasible since these are busy users who rely
> > heavily on their email.
> >
> > best regards
> > Mike
> >
> >
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