RE: Email slowness

  • From: "Kenny Mann" <Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:47:02 -0600

Full patched, I do that when I build them, so I can be 100% sure of
where the computer should be.

Thanks!

Kenny Mann

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx] 
>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:41 PM
>To: [ExchangeList]
>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>
>
>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
>Is XP patched?  SP1 or ?
>
>Al
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:15 PM
>To: [ExchangeList]
>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>
>
>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
>I've notcied that it's only XP people who are experiaincing 
>this, bot not all of them. I thought some 2K people were 
>getting this trouble as well, but as it seems it was outlook 
>that crashed, so they couldn't receive email.
>
>Kenny Mann
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Kenny Mann
>>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:12 PM
>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>
>>
>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>
>>It's turned off, that was the first thing I checked.
>>A couple people sitting behind me are wondering why their 
>email hasn't 
>>showed up yet as well, so I'm starting to wonder if the server isn't 
>>sending the push message saying (You got mail, come and get it). Very 
>>odd. Once I find it out, I'll post the solution.
>>
>>-----------------------
>>-- Kenny Mann
>>IT Tech / Systems Administrator / Network Administrator
>>C&D Robotics, Inc.
>>4780 South 23rd Street
>>Beaumont, TX 77705
>>Phone: (409)-840-5252
>>Fax: (409)-840-4660
>>Be courteous, use mail list etiquette.
>>http://etherpunk.com/misc-mail_etiquette.html
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Eric Lanyon [mailto:ELanyon@xxxxxxx]
>>>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:10 PM
>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>
>>>Along the same lines...ensure Internet Connection Firewall isn't
>>>enabled on the NIC.  I've seen it do funky things on a network.
>>>
>>>eric
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
>>>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:48 AM
>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>
>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>
>>>Check the network out.  In order for the new mail notification to
>>>operate, you have to get a UDP notification (which is generally 
>>>considered a best effort attempt to deliver a packet).  Things like 
>>>firewalls, routers, network drivers etc are possible interferences 
>>>(anything in the first 6 layers really).  Find out what he 
>downloaded 
>>>and installed.  Was it blackice?  Was it something else?  What'd he 
>>>change on that machine that causes it to have this issue.
>>>
>>>I think at this point you've narrowed it down to the machine he uses.
>>>I think a logical next step is to find out what he changed 
>to inflict 
>>>the problem and correct it.
>>>
>>>
>>>Al
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:29 PM
>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>
>>>Same thing, even with a new profile...
>>>It's as if it doesn't resolve the server idle, unless he forces it to
>>>touch the server (IE: Open an email, which resides on the server. 
>>>Although this doesn't work all the time.)
>>>
>>>-----------------------
>>>-- Kenny Mann
>>>
>>>IT Tech / Systems Administrator / Network Administrator
>>>C&D Robotics, Inc.
>>>4780 South 23rd Street
>>>Beaumont, TX 77705
>>>Phone: (409)-840-5252
>>>Fax: (409)-840-4660
>>>Be courteous, use mail list etiquette. 
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>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Kenny Mann
>>>>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:29 AM
>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>
>>>>He doesn't have anything else hooking into the client. I'll 
>try a new
>>>>profile. The interesting thing is that after I rebuild the
>>>machine, it
>>>>works fine. It's whenever I hand it to him, a week later,
>>>it's back to
>>>>what it's doing. I think he might be changing something, but
>>>I have no
>>>>idea what it could be. The dangerous thing about having a user who
>>>>knows enough to hurt himself, but not smart enough to know
>>>what not to
>>>>do. I really appreciate your ideas!
>>>>
>>>>Kenny Mann
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:23 PM
>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>[hail Mary]
>>>>>Does he have any add-ins or other software hooked into the client? 
>>>>>Does he get the same behavior after you create a new
>>profile for him?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Al
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:19 AM
>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>Ahh, very intersting. Thanks!
>>>>>His (Known not-working) : 
>>>>>ncalrpc,ncacn_ip_tcp,ncacn_spx,ncacn_np,netbios,ncacn_vns_spp
>>>>>Mine (Known Working)    :
>>>>>ncalrpc,ncacn_ip_tcp,ncacn_spx,ncacn_np,netbios,ncacn_vns_spp
>>>>>
>>>>>Same
>>>>>
>>>>>Kenny Mann
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:53 AM
>>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?Catalog=LCID%3
>>>>>>D1033%26CDID% 
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>>>>>>&maxResults=25&Queryl=163576&Query=163576&QuerySource=gsfxSearc
>>>>>>h_Query&srchE
>>>>>>xtraQry=
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.winnetmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=3765&pg=2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 4:25 PM
>>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Where do I find Outlook binding order?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kenny Mann
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:03 PM
>>>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sorry. I was referring to the Outlook binding order.
>>>>What's that set
>>>>>>>to?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Al
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:44 PM
>>>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does he get the same results if logged into another
>>"known good"
>>>>>>>> workstation?
>>>>>>>Everything works fine, if from another computer or OWA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Binding order
>>>>>>>He only uses TCP/IP, for file sharing and windows
>>>>>netowkring. I turned
>>>>>
>>>>>>>on file sharing and printer sharing, just because he doesn't
>>>>>>share, but I
>>>>>>>doubt that will fix the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> MAPI mode or IMAP/POP
>>>>>>>He is using MAPI, everyone is using MAPI. IMAP is running though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mail delivered
>>>>>>>It doesn't make a difference if the mails are on the 
>server or are
>>>>>>>local.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for the help!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kenny Mann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:06 PM
>>>>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Probably not his account, but it could be his network.  What
>>>>>>>else is he
>>>>>>>>running on the machine?  Does he get the same results if
>>>>logged into
>>>>>>>>another "known good" workstation?  What about his binding
>>>>>order (and
>>>>>>>>those that are having the issues as well)?  Any thing there
>>>>>>>to report?
>>>>>>>>Is he using MAPI mode for mail access or IMAP/POP?  Is he
>>>>having the
>>>>>>>>mail delivered to his PST vs. leaving it on the store?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Al
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:21 PM
>>>>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>We aren't using any spam filtering, only Norton AV addon for
>>>>>>Exchange.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From: Dee Arnold [mailto:Deea@xxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:08 AM
>>>>>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Are you running any type of Spam Filtering at the server level?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:07 AM
>>>>>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] Email slowness
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>A long time ago I was having problems with a user having email
>>>>>>>>>problems, it would take hours, days, or possibly weeks to
>>>>>>>>receive some
>>>>>>>>>emails. I have narrowed it down to his computer.
>>>>>>>>>OWA works (it shows all his email, even though his desktop
>>>>>>>>may not show
>>>>>>>>>it). I've tried the security policy settings modifications
>>>>>(3 Domain
>>>>>>>>>Member: Digitally Encrypt, etc) that Steve Moffat suggested,
>>>>>>>and they
>>>>>>>>>seemed to work. A couple weeks later, things seem to be
>>>happening
>>>>>>>>>again, but not as bad (seemingly). One of the weird things
>>>>>>>is that if
>>>>>>>>>he opens up an email (any, even already read emails),
>>>>then he will
>>>>>>>>>receive all emails from the server that he hasn't already
>>>>>received.
>>>>>>>>>It's as if he's having problems talking to the server. This 
>>>>>>>>>occassioanlly happens to other people, although very rare
>>>>for them
>>>>>>>>>(seemingly). He is running Windows XP, fully updated with
>>>>>Office XP.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Seemingly all the people seeing this problem have Windows 2K
>>>>>>>>or Windows
>>>>>>>>>XP. Some of them use Office 97, while others use Office XP.
>>>>>>>>Other parts
>>>>>>>>>of the network (IE:
>>>>>>>>>Internet, FTP, etc) seem to work happily with no problems. The
>>>>>>>>>computers seem to be fairly powerful (Above 1ghz, >= 256MB of
>>>>>>>>memory).
>>>>>>>>>Out of 40 people, only 1 person experiances this on a
>>>>semi-regular
>>>>>>>>>basis, while a total of 2 or 3 people have shared his
>>>>>>>experience with
>>>>>>>>>their accounts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Any suggestions?
>>>>>>>>>Is it possible, there is something funky with his Active
>>>>Directory
>>>>>>>>>account, perhaps?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>----------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>--Kenny Mann
>>>>>>>>> 
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