RE: Email slowness

  • From: "Kenny Mann" <Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:11:55 -0600

It's turned off, that was the first thing I checked.
A couple people sitting behind me are wondering why their email hasn't
showed up yet as well, so I'm starting to wonder if the server isn't
sending the push message saying (You got mail, come and get it).
Very odd. Once I find it out, I'll post the solution.

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-- Kenny Mann
IT Tech / Systems Administrator / Network Administrator
C&D Robotics, Inc.
4780 South 23rd Street
Beaumont, TX 77705
Phone: (409)-840-5252
Fax: (409)-840-4660 
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Eric Lanyon [mailto:ELanyon@xxxxxxx] 
>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:10 PM
>To: [ExchangeList]
>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>
>
>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
>Along the same lines...ensure Internet Connection Firewall 
>isn't enabled on the NIC.  I've seen it do funky things on a network.
>
>eric
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx] 
>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:48 AM
>To: [ExchangeList]
>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>
>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
>Check the network out.  In order for the new mail notification 
>to operate, you have to get a UDP notification (which is 
>generally considered a best effort attempt to deliver a 
>packet).  Things like firewalls, routers, network drivers etc 
>are possible interferences (anything in the first 6 layers 
>really).  Find out what he downloaded and installed.  Was it 
>blackice?  Was it something else?  What'd he change on that 
>machine that causes it to have this issue.  
>
>I think at this point you've narrowed it down to the machine 
>he uses.  I think a logical next step is to find out what he 
>changed to inflict the problem and correct it.
>
>
>Al
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:29 PM
>To: [ExchangeList]
>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>
>
>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
>Same thing, even with a new profile...
>It's as if it doesn't resolve the server idle, unless he 
>forces it to touch the server (IE: Open an email, which 
>resides on the server. Although this doesn't work all the time.)
>
>-----------------------
>-- Kenny Mann
>
>IT Tech / Systems Administrator / Network Administrator
>C&D Robotics, Inc.
>4780 South 23rd Street
>Beaumont, TX 77705
>Phone: (409)-840-5252
>Fax: (409)-840-4660 
>Be courteous, use mail list etiquette. 
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>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Kenny Mann
>>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:29 AM
>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>
>>
>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>
>>He doesn't have anything else hooking into the client. I'll try a new 
>>profile. The interesting thing is that after I rebuild the 
>machine, it 
>>works fine. It's whenever I hand it to him, a week later, 
>it's back to 
>>what it's doing. I think he might be changing something, but 
>I have no 
>>idea what it could be. The dangerous thing about having a user who 
>>knows enough to hurt himself, but not smart enough to know 
>what not to 
>>do. I really appreciate your ideas!
>>
>>Kenny Mann
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
>>>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:23 PM
>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>
>>>[hail Mary]
>>>Does he have any add-ins or other software hooked into the client?
>>>Does he get the same behavior after you create a new profile for him?
>>>
>>>
>>>Al
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:19 AM
>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>
>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>
>>>Ahh, very intersting. Thanks!
>>>His (Known not-working) :
>>>ncalrpc,ncacn_ip_tcp,ncacn_spx,ncacn_np,netbios,ncacn_vns_spp
>>>Mine (Known Working)    :
>>>ncalrpc,ncacn_ip_tcp,ncacn_spx,ncacn_np,netbios,ncacn_vns_spp
>>>
>>>Same
>>>
>>>Kenny Mann
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:53 AM
>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?Catalog=LCID%3
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>>>>3DEN-US-KB%26PRODLISTSRC%3DON&Product=&KeywordType=ALL&Titles=f
>>>>alse&numDays=
>>>>&maxResults=25&Queryl=163576&Query=163576&QuerySource=gsfxSearc
>>>>h_Query&srchE
>>>>xtraQry=
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.winnetmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=3765&pg=2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 4:25 PM
>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>
>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>
>>>>Where do I find Outlook binding order?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Kenny Mann
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:03 PM
>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry. I was referring to the Outlook binding order.
>>What's that set
>>>>>to?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Al
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:44 PM
>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does he get the same results if logged into another "known good"
>>>>>> workstation?
>>>>>Everything works fine, if from another computer or OWA.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Binding order
>>>>>He only uses TCP/IP, for file sharing and windows
>>>netowkring. I turned
>>>
>>>>>on file sharing and printer sharing, just because he doesn't
>>>>share, but I
>>>>>doubt that will fix the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>> MAPI mode or IMAP/POP
>>>>>He is using MAPI, everyone is using MAPI. IMAP is running though.
>>>>>
>>>>>> mail delivered
>>>>>It doesn't make a difference if the mails are on the server or are 
>>>>>local.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for the help!
>>>>>
>>>>>Kenny Mann
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:06 PM
>>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Probably not his account, but it could be his network.  What
>>>>>else is he
>>>>>>running on the machine?  Does he get the same results if
>>logged into
>>>>>>another "known good" workstation?  What about his binding
>>>order (and
>>>>>>those that are having the issues as well)?  Any thing there
>>>>>to report?
>>>>>>Is he using MAPI mode for mail access or IMAP/POP?  Is he
>>having the
>>>>>>mail delivered to his PST vs. leaving it on the store?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:21 PM
>>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We aren't using any spam filtering, only Norton AV addon for
>>>>Exchange.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Dee Arnold [mailto:Deea@xxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:08 AM
>>>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Email slowness
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Are you running any type of Spam Filtering at the server level?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Kenny Mann [mailto:Kennymann@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:07 AM
>>>>>>>To: [ExchangeList]
>>>>>>>Subject: [exchangelist] Email slowness
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.MSExchange.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A long time ago I was having problems with a user having email 
>>>>>>>problems, it would take hours, days, or possibly weeks to
>>>>>>receive some
>>>>>>>emails. I have narrowed it down to his computer.
>>>>>>>OWA works (it shows all his email, even though his desktop
>>>>>>may not show
>>>>>>>it). I've tried the security policy settings modifications
>>>(3 Domain
>>>>>>>Member: Digitally Encrypt, etc) that Steve Moffat suggested,
>>>>>and they
>>>>>>>seemed to work. A couple weeks later, things seem to be 
>happening 
>>>>>>>again, but not as bad (seemingly). One of the weird things
>>>>>is that if
>>>>>>>he opens up an email (any, even already read emails),
>>then he will
>>>>>>>receive all emails from the server that he hasn't already
>>>received.
>>>>>>>It's as if he's having problems talking to the server. This
>>>>>>>occassioanlly happens to other people, although very rare
>>for them
>>>>>>>(seemingly). He is running Windows XP, fully updated with
>>>Office XP.
>>>
>>>>>>>Seemingly all the people seeing this problem have Windows 2K
>>>>>>or Windows
>>>>>>>XP. Some of them use Office 97, while others use Office XP.
>>>>>>Other parts
>>>>>>>of the network (IE:
>>>>>>>Internet, FTP, etc) seem to work happily with no problems. The 
>>>>>>>computers seem to be fairly powerful (Above 1ghz, >= 256MB of
>>>>>>memory).
>>>>>>>Out of 40 people, only 1 person experiances this on a
>>semi-regular
>>>>>>>basis, while a total of 2 or 3 people have shared his
>>>>>experience with
>>>>>>>their accounts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any suggestions?
>>>>>>>Is it possible, there is something funky with his Active
>>Directory
>>>>>>>account, perhaps?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----------------------------------
>>>>>>>--Kenny Mann
>>>>>>> 
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