First, it'd be nice if you didn't "hot-link" a picture in your signature, just put the thing in there if you must have it. Yes, this is normal operations for Exchange, the amount of white space you have is of course going to depend on how active your mailbox stores are. My most active/volitale store is just under 70gig right now and it averages 250MB to about 600MB of whitespace. Note I said most active, I have all VIP types in another store that is about twice that size, but has next to nothing ever deleted, so has very little whitespace (freespace). What your seeing is pretty normal in my opinion. As for an off-line defrag, don't bother, it's not going to make a difference for you. George Taylor Systems Programmer Regional Health Inc. _____ From: Ralph Haney [mailto:rhaney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:27 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Database Size question Sensitivity: Private http://www.MSExchange.org/ <RANT BLOCK ON> Not having formal Exchange (or even messaging training) and wearing so many IT/operations hats I often don't have time to do extensive research, may I ask a question on free space? Based on your suggestion, I took a look out of curiosity and my application logs for ID 1221 seem to fluctuate with freespace values from about a half-gig to only 3-4 MB after an online defrag completes. 1) I assume this is the normal DB maintenance occurring and is nothing to be concerned about...? 2) This is the term "whitespace" that you're referring to? TIA <RANT BLOCK OFF> Ralph Haney MCSE IT / Telecom Manager Avalon Natural Products www.avalonnaturalproducts.com <http://204.202.2.54/coop.avalonnaturalproducts.com/MCSE-RGB_small4.gif> -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:54 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Database Size question Sensitivity: Private http://www.MSExchange.org/ Whitespace. Previously used space stays in the database. Unless you have a need to do an offline defrag (and based on the information you've presented here, I wouldn't say that you do), don't do one. _____ From: Rich Gallo [mailto:RGallo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:42 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] Database Size question Sensitivity: Private http://www.MSExchange.org/ I was comparing the size of my database backups to my mailbox level backups and I found a discrepancy of about 10 Gigs (Database is 35 GB Mailboxes are 25 GB). Is there some kind of overhead to the database that I am missing?? Should I do an offline defrag of the stores? Just curious, nothing earth shattering J Thanks!!! Also, there usually aren't many log files because I do a full backup every night and also each day an Incremental is done every two hours. 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