Well Dave - It all started one 'sunny day' when a high level executive called down to IT and said "I want a Blackberry like the one that a friend has".... And so BES was introduced to our network. Then one day two other executives decided that the Treo format was what they wanted (along with better document editing abilities while on the road), so along comes Goodlink services. And then I upgraded our Exchange environment from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003 with lots of redundancy across the entire organization. In my design each 'site' has an OWA NLB server design which is perfect for providing a world wide footprint for ActiveSync support. My only concern now is finding the best security product out there to protect the windows mobile devices. Although we still support all three formats, with given initiatives in the organization, and testing on all three services - I recently have decided to begin deploying users with ActiveSync. OVERALL, my thoughts are - if you have a small organization with exchange servers in one Administrative group and all at the same physical site, you would want to look at the Goodlink Server or BES. If you have a large organization with many sites/exchange servers, and you have a good Exchange design to support the ActiveSync connections, I would suggest using the Exchange SP2 solution. Goodlink and BES require minimum ping response times with your exchange servers that may require multiple BES or Goodlink servers to be deployed. This gets pricey... ActiveSync with exchange (and given a good front-end server design) could save you tons of money. But some of that money will need to be spent on a good security and virus solution for those devices. Regards, Chris ________________________________ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave stevens Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:00 AM To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Alternative to Blackberry Enterprise server Thanks guysfor all the information. And Chris, why do you have all 3? Anyway this is the deal. I have supported BES, and have implemented OMA - that is activesync exchange 2003 right? My understanding is that active synch is not a push technology but pull, you have to get on the internet to retrieve your mails? I might be wrong, hence the reason for all the research. This company wants to bring me in cos of my Exchange / messaging experience. They would be looking to implement some sort of mobile mail technology. Now I would be required to do the research and then present to the business, what in my opinion would be the best option. BES is a tried technology, but only limited to Blackberry devices, I think they are looking for solutions that would enable existing mobile phones receive and send mails. So not quite sure which way to go. Hope my situation is a bit clearer. Ta Dave Chris Wall <Chris.Wall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I have BES, Goodlink and ActiveSync for Exchange 2003 running in my environment (I am the only admin for all three of these solutions for our World Wide Org and it can be a pain in the a$$ sometimes) If you have specific questions, let me know. There are many differences between the 3, but all have their pros and cons. If cost is a concern - go Active Sync I will let you know this - Goodlink will support many device types (windows mobile and palm OS devices) BES will support Blackberry devices and now has just released support for Treo 650 devices (with Cingular). ActiveSync has a windows format that will be more familiar to your users and cut down on support calls (and most third party apps are designing solutions for these devices over PalmOS and BBerry) Also, keep in mind this - You want to investigate security/virus solutions for whichever solution you go with. Right now, most vendors only support Windows Mobile devices. Although Goodlink now offers an in-house security/virus solution for mobile devices that you can purchas. Blackberry has no third party Virus solutions (that I can find). A couple of interesting security/virus vendors to look at while considering your choice is F-Secure, Mobile Armor and BlueFire. F-Secure provides Security options, but you have to purchase a McAfee or Norton solution to work with it for Virus' control. Then you have the whole issue of deploying updates over the wire vs. requiring the device to be tethered to the user's PC for updates. Long story short - you will have to do a lot of research to get the answers you seek, and depending on your environment, you will choose differently than others on this list... Well so long for now and let me know if you have any specific questions (including why I have all three in my environment) ________________________________ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:15 PM To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Alternative to Blackberry Enterprise server We are currently using Good Mobile Messaging. It offers a more stable mobile messaging platform and support for more devices, including all Palm & Pocket PC (Windows Mobile) devices. http://www.good.com/corp/index.php ________________________________ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave stevens Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:24 PM To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] Alternative to Blackberry Enterprise server Hi Guys, I understand that this is not strictly and exchange question, but need your help. I am currently look at alternatives to BES, and what the basic difference between Exchange OMA and BES are. I need as much concise information on this as possible, as I am going to read thru and recommend to the business. Thanks Dave ________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. 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