Agreed, David! In my original response on the subject (Nov. 25), I explained why points should not be deducted for "can not"; the rest was just commentary. In general (to reiterate an important point), credit should not be deducted for stylistic "errors", which are often largely a matter of personal preference. Batya ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Reid" <reidnomad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, 28 November, 2010 10:44 AM Subject: [etni] style versus grammar: points off? > Hi, Etniers, > I agree with Batya (in her post from 28. November) when she says that one > should encourage clarity and conciseness in expression, and that there are > better styles with which to express the examples I brought up (in my posts > about "can not"). However, the original question was whether one should > take > off points for a particular usage. I was under the impression that a > teacher > should encourage better style but, at the school level, take off points > only > for grammatical mistakes. My point was that there is room for "can not" in > modern English grammar and that it is an admissible style, even if it is > not > the style most favoured by English speakers. I am not sure that a school > teacher is justified for taking off points for a grammatically correct > sentence simply because the style is not optimal. Indeed, clarity and > conciseness are often subjective: from a mathematician's point of view, > most > English teachers would not be able to write an essay either in optimally > clear or in optimally concise style. (No offense meant.) Hence, perhaps > annotations such as "OK, but it would be better as: ....." or "OK, but > awkward. Better:..." without a loss of points would be more appropriate. > David Reid > > ----------------------------------------------- > ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org > ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** > ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** > ----------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------