[etni] fw: Re: goal of English as a Second language in Israel

From: "oralevy" - <busani@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: goal of English as a Second language in Israel 

Right on!  Actually the English teacher in Israel has become a 
remedial instructor in study habits, reading comprehension skills, 
writing skills, and even basic conversation manners.  
Our responsibilities are awesome, the expectations of us - 
challenging, and we can all give ourselves a big standing ovation.



Sergeiy wrote:

> A note on the discussion so far.
> First of all, Aviva, I think you misunderstood Doron a bit. L1
> proficiency is something that our pupils cannot achieve by definition
> (with the exception of those who have immigrated from English speaking
> countries, who have already achieved it, by that same definition). To
> illustrate the point - I consider my own level of proficiency in English
> to be quite good. Apart from teaching English and writing academic
> papers in English, I've even been translating various materials to
> English, and have done that well enough. So what? I'm still not a native
> speaker, and get constantly reminded of that when in contact with native
> speakers. I haven't reached L1 proficiency, and probably never will
> (perhaps only if I immigrate to an English-speaking country and stay
> there for a few decades).

To read Sergeiy's full message, go to -
http://www.freelists.org/archives/etni/05-2006/msg00238.html


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