Actually you have a point Barry. HOTS or not, we have intelligent kids, with the added advantage of being younger and more tech-savvy than we are. What if the English staff/English coordinator/principal/inspector/whatever sat down with a couple of average Bagrut candidates - with and without hakraah - and asked them what way to go. They would know what technology is at the disposal of their friends, what's easy to do, where the pitfalls are.........and instead of mailing each other back and forth, perhaps each school coulfd come to an intelligent conclusion. If we could check for patterns and trends, and many see that they need more help or a different form of disc/tape/smoke signal from the Ministry, then a specific request could be formulated, explained and justified. Out of the mouths of babes............. -- "Music will save the world." Pablo Casals ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------