---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Graniewitz <graniewitz@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: pro - log I'm sorry, Sharon, IMHO the main bone of contention is the log. Firstly, no matter what we do we will never prevent plagiarism, copying and the work being done by private teachers etc. Secondly, the fact that it is an option means that there will be major discrepancies in grades between schools doing the log and those doing the exam. What will happen eventually is that teachers in the latter will be pressurised to switch over to the logs against their will and principles when it becomes evident that logs almost guarantee higher grades. I agree that logs do give us more freedom but the Bagrut is meant to be a standardised exam that can be recognised by institutes of higher education. If 62.5% of it will be given by the class teacher, then it will cease to be an objective measurement of the pupil's knowledge of English and I can see universities disregarding it. The consequence of this will be that pupils will stop taking English seriously at school and just wait to take the psychometric exam. I think that we are shooting ourselves in the foot with this one. Regards David Graniewitz Jerusalem ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------