[etni] Fw: re: oral Bagrut

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Linda Dayan - lindadayan7@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: oral Bagrut


Hi,  Batya,

   I think the oral bagrut is important.  First, if something isn't tested, 
it isn't (usually) taught, and the test forces teachers to get the kids 
speaking for any length of time for the only time during their high school 
careers, in most cases.  Also, if the kids have to talk to me to prepare for 
an exam, they do, something they are shy of doing otherwise.  For these 
reasons, I am 100% in favor of the exam.

   Shabbat Shalom,

          Linda


Batya wrote:
> Someone recently wrote about how farcical the oral Bagrut has become due 
> to
> the great variance in testers' standards (i.e., more than a few don't 'go 
> by
> the book'), which makes the results of the test totally unreliable.
> Considering all the wasted time (both teachers' and students') and money
> (the MOE's), wouldn't it make simple good sense to do away with this 
> segment
> of the Bagrut exam?
> Moreover, as long as there are English teachers who use Hebrew as the main
> language for communication in the classroom (even for 5 pointers), how can
> the Ministry expect us to test them in spoken English? Are we counting on
> the English our students hear on TV and movies or the kind of literature
> they usually read?
> Though I haven't come up with an alternative to the present system, I 
> think
> most of us would agree that the time spent on preparing for the oral test
> would be better used in preparation for the written exams -- not to 
> mention
> that there should be more to 12th grade English than the looming Bagrut.
> Thanks to ETNI for providing a place to gripe!



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