----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Givati" <jesg50@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: answers about 666/.777 To Kobi and all who wanted to know about the answers I received ( I know how I catch my kids who cheat but I wondered with loads of papers from different schools how the markers did it!!! ) (BTW I just realized that originally 2 letters were sent to ETNI- one saying that the code for cheating is 666 ,the other that 777 is for cheating!!!!) Also I just saw a report on FOX(?) or was it CBS that reported on USA Net sites which demonstrate methosds on how to cheat!!!! Here is the answer I got from Judith Astary ( I apologize to all the other kiind markers who answered me but I deleted your letters.This one I got later......) To answer your question ..... Yes, each batch (mana) contains the tests of students who sat together in the same classroom. The batches may range in number from 1 to 48 (which is quite unusual). the average batch is between 15 and 20. Cheating is quite easy to detect but not always can a marker register a complaint against the offending party. The first sign would be discrepancies between girsa A and girsa B on the multiple choice questions. In order to register a complaint a student must have a previously agreed upon number of the "wrong girsa" answers: say 7 out of 9 in a certain module or all the MC answers in another (with less of that type of question). Other instances of cheating range from an examiner detecting two students (or more!) with the identical yet not "run-of-the mill) mistake in a certain question / certain questions. Or the right answer to the wrong question OR identical spelling mistakes (and I do not refer to the "then/than" common mistake). A sudden drastic change in handwriting may also be suspect. Questionable cases receive more than one scrutiny. These are the most common occurences tho there are other cases. Judith Astary ----------------------------------------------- Call for Articles The Etni Rag needs you ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------