**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** ----- Original Message ----- From: Barabra or Yaacov Ori ojacob@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: ask@xxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:26 PM Subject: Oral testing and tapes Every year we ETNIANS bring up the subject of oral testing and making tapes. We invest hours and hours of our free time and we get paid nil for all these efforts. Not only this, but how many of us have come in on our day off, come in early to school or stayed after school waiting for a student who was scheduled to be tested who just doesn't show up. Last year, after being stood up three times by the same student, I wrote a letter home to his parents and gave him a zero. Another aspect of all this which I hardly need to remind everyone of is the fact that in English we have a lot of quizzes, book reports and special assignments besides the tests. Many subjects have one test and maybe a quiz or two all semester. So sitting with students to test them orally and tapes are not just for the test....Last year, our staff started recording all the extra hours that we gave and the numbers were in the hundreds. Don't get me wrong,,, we want to help our students,, but we should be recompensated for our time- just like any other job. And we shouldn't feel guilty about asking for it. Instead of just griping - we should start writing to our unions. I know that there are cutbacks right now, but the unions and the Ministry of Education need to be aware of all these hours. And keep in mind that the numbers of students are not going down. On the contrary , the numbers are rising.. It is just taken for granted that the English teachers will continue doing all this extra work..At the very least, we should get some recognition of the fact that we are making such efforts to help our students.... Barbara Ori Ros, I don't think that the teacher in your school can either refuse to test her students orally or refuse to make tapes for them.. While her belief that she should be paid is justified, until the unions or the Ministry do something about the situation, it certainly is not fair for her to expect other staff members who are also busy to do it for her.. I would take it to the principal. Has this teacher written to the union,,,the Ministry,,,? ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####