**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** This is why, when I DO projects in my classes, and when I taught the NBA course this year, I recommended the project being split into very clear sections, so that each participant has their own section of the project. For example: Political Assassinations: Group's research question: What is the affect of political assassinations on the political atmosphere after the assassination? One learner researched the Rabin assassination, another the JFK assassination and the third researched the Lincoln assassination. They wrote their conclusions after sharing their information, together. They all have the same conclusions, but will be discussing a different aspect of the project, each with their own research. ~Adele ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bari Nirenberg" <nirenber@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 5:56 PM Subject: [etni] Re: FWD: testing the projects orally > **** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** > > Just one comment... My own 11th grade English speakers will be tested in > early May. They did their projects in groups and I have two groups of three > students each who will talk about the same project (each project will be > discussed three times). Hearing it once might be interesting. Hearing the > same thing three times is a bit much, I think, especially since the total > number of students being tested is so small that the tester will most likely > have to hear about the same project two or three times in a row. Yeah, it's > better than having to listen to them ask 10 memorized questions, but not > much. > > Bari > > > > > Skeptics have told me that in years to come, when the rest of > > the kids are at this stage, I will find that > > they memorize a monologue about their project, and it will become > > just as unauthentic as the modified > > role-plays. > > However, I really think not... I trust myself to be able to > > engage them in conversation in a way that I will > > certainly be able to assess their ability to speak authentically > > about their projects. > > > > ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### > ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx ##### ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####