[elky] Re: [Profanity] Re: Building a PC (and other stuff)
- From: "Mongar, Brian" <Brian.Mongar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:27:54 -0600
I had no idea you could get a liquid cooled PC?
Seriously?
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From: Chris Lindh <chrislindh@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:23 AM
To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Profanity] [elky] Re: Building a PC (and other stuff)
Looks like the Windows deal for students has gone up to $65:
http://www.microsoft.com/student/discounts/theultimatesteal-us/default.aspx
Your daughter in law may be able to get a better price at her
bookstore, especially if she is taking a computer class. I should
have bought a 2nd copy.
On the sound card I would read reviews at Newegg... not sure where
else to look... maybe the AVforums?
Good news on the dual monitors... Windows 7 will recognize and set
them up for you when you plug them in... truly plug and play. You can
adjust them by going to screen resolution (right click the desktop, or
go to the control panel... many ways to get there... there is a search
function on every folder that is handy). You will LOVE dual
monitors... makes working much easier. Also, you can remote in from
your new PC to the old, so you can have the old PC screen sitting in a
window on your desktop - might be handy during the transition.
This PC stuff has become easier than it used to be... very plug and play.
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Well, I went and did it. After all the phone calls ended last nite (about
> midnite) I went and ordered the computer components.....all except the
> liquid cooling system. I want one that will cool the drives as well as the
> cpus....or at least dual cpu chips. Expandability would be nice there...if
> I could find a cooling system that could be easily added to (right...take it
> apart, spill coolant everywhere, clean up the mess, wait for it to dry then
> test the cooling system only without applying power to the mobo...sure.)
>
> I ended up with basically what I reported before:
> Thermaltake case (a little more subdued than the first one I listed, but
> still a bit blingy)
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
>
> APEVIA WARLOCK POWER ATX-WA900W power supply (I was wavering about the 750,
> but ya convinced me, Chris....and there were many 5 star reviews on the
> Apevia.)
>
> TYAN S2927G2NR-E Thunder n3600B Dual 1207(F) NVIDIA mobo.
>
> 2 Opteron 2378 2.4 ghz quad core processors. I figger that if I get the
> cooling worked out, I should be able to run 'em at 3 ghz minimum.
>
> 16 gb ram (OCZ Reaper), 8 for each processor.
>
> The XFX Radeon HD 4890 Video card from Tiger Direct
>
> OCZ 60gb SSD for system only. I'll reserve a drive for software if there
> isn't enough room for some of the bloatware programs on the SSD...I'm sure
> I'm gonna have to do this anyway.
>
> I need to see if my daughter-in-law can get me the Win7 Pro at a student
> discount. Who knows? It might just work.
>
> Btw, I don't run M$ Office (I use Open Office) nor do I use the Adobe
> Suite. Just CS2 and I also run Corel's Paint Shop Pro. Those, ACDSee,
> WhereIsIt (cataloging program) and a coupla other graphics programs are
> things I'd like to put on the SSD. We'll see how much room I have,
> especially with swap space of about 32gb. Holy shit! It just hit me that
> the swap space will have to reside on a different drive. I've got a coupla
> 500gb drives I can use for stuff like that.
>
> Right now I don't have any cooling options for the cpus nor the drives.
>
> All other items are ordered and should be on their way soon.
>
> Bottom line: $1824.00
>
> I've spent less (my current workstation was only $799 and as I wrote [but
> then I loaded it with a buncha other stuff]. I bought an NEC 286 box for $3
> large in the 80s. So I've paid more....but certainly none of this multiple
> processor stuff.
>
> One last thing. Here's the mobo:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813151098
>
> It looks like I'm gonna have to get a sound card for it. Any ideas? Here's
> one that I thought looked interesting:
> M-Audio Audiophile 2496 MIDI Digital Recording Interface:
> http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Audiophile-2496-Recording-Interface/dp/B00006I5H5/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1264002967&sr=8-1
>
> Another thing is dual monitors. How can one configure them to work? I
> worked on mainframes that had dual SPOs (Supervisory Print Outs) but an
> operator was required to log in on each of 'em. But that was in a galaxy
> far, far away.
>
> Ohh...I guess this means I'm gonna be running in dual machine mode for a
> while. I'll use my peripheral switch for that so I can just switch mouse,
> kb and monitor back and forth between the 2 systems.
>
> Seems like more new toys. But I need it to get my photos edited in a
> reasonable time and there are a lotta other core hogs that, even if they
> don't speed up, shouldn't slow other stuff down. Firefox is one of 'em.
> I'm sure it's me that loads it down with too many open tabs, but it's sure
> handy to work with it that way. Ohh...there's a new add-on that allows
> multiple urls to be loaded in one tab:
> http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/_splitbrowser.html.en
>
> Wish me luck, please,
>
> Ray
>
> At 10:07 AM 1/19/2010, you wrote:
>
> The case you've chosen is a popular choice, so it should be good.
> Corsair has a good reputation so you should be happy with the power
> supply. Just be sure the 750 is enough to power all your drives, your
> graphics card(s) etc.: http://www.corsair.com/psufinder/default.aspx
>
> Definitely use AMD if that is your preference... I don't doubt Intel
> is evil, like Micro$oft and the rest. I wouldn't buy a Seagate drive
> since I had one die on me... not that a single failure is
> statistically significant...
>
> Ram & SSD look good, just make sure the SSD will be big enough to
> store the OS plus the programs you want to run fast. With Office,
> Adobe CS2 suite and some other programs I've only got 10GB left out of
> 80GB. Also make sure you install the drivers for the SSD and run it
> in the correct mode. I had to change the mode from IDE to AHCI in the
> BIOS and Device Manager to get the SSD to run at peak performance.
>
> You can still get the XFX 4890 where I bought it:
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5210080&CatId=3669
>
> ... but I bought it for the bang for the buck at $150 after cashback.
> You may want a ATI 5xxx series card for more future proofing. I do
> like that XFX cards have a double warranty, meaning if you sell it
> later on the buyer has a warranty too. There's also Nvidia cards...
> read this for some guidance, with each price point covered:
> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2521.html this
> page is especially useful:
> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2521-8.html
>
> As for cooling I like the Corsair H50 for simplicity. I could be
> wrong but I don't think today's SSD's need any cooling.
>
> I would also keep an eye on
> http://slickdeals.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9 for items you want
> on sale, or Bing cashback deals. You can get 8% cash back for
> purchases on eBay, just search "wii" on http://www.bing.com/cashback
> and click the sponsored link. Cashback is a legit deal, it's just a
> way for the consumer to get a piece of the advertising revenue. You
> can also set up a deal alert on slickdeals so when someone posts a
> "ocz ssd" deal for example you'll get a message.
>
> Good luck with it, sounds like your plan is coming together. The
> biggest hassle I've run into is getting older peripherals to run on
> Windows 7 64 bit... so far there's only one I can't get to work: my
> old USB modem (used for faxes). I haven't spent a lot of time on it
> though, I'll get it figured out.
>
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