[elky] Re: Oh, hell!

  • From: Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:24:50 -0600

Yep. I think you have a pretty good handle on it. I hadn't thought about the case crack, since there's no leaking, but an internal crack is a distinct possibility.


The pump is a REAL possibility. Jim and I discussed this after we got it into the garage. I'm looking into manual transmissions. I didn't like the feel of a race car with the automatic, so it's not like I'm grieving over the possibility of having a third pedal in the car.

r


On 10/30/2011 7:46 AM, STILLFRANKSFAULT@xxxxxxx wrote:
Interesting transmission problem, might want to rethink the chain of events at the time it shut down. We know it was running hard, and lost the drive shaft. The sudden stop, or jerk/torque could have damaged the pump, and that would give you no power in any gear. Or when you shift up top it's not happening at,or inside the trans. Either way its toast. I suspect a crack in the case internality from the drive shaft that is bleeding off the pressure.
Just my two cents.
Smokey Mt Frank
In a message dated 10/30/2011 12:57:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:



    Race Car.  What else?

    Yesterday I got the driveshaft in it, and I was gonna unload it
    from the trailer.



But the battery was dead, even though it had been disconnected. Maybe a current leak was discovered when Marlo and his posse
    loaded it on the trailer and they disconnected the battery after
    it was close to flat.

    So after charging the battery, Jim came over and we were ready to
    unload.  First thing that happened when I fired up the motor was
    the ejection of a buncha water and possibly oil from the exhaust:



    This wasn't all that encouraging, except that a check of the
    radiator didn't show any oil and the oil (on the dipstick) didn't
    show any water.  This one remains a mystery.



    Then the long-awaited cleaning of the whiteboard.  We started a
    whole new list.

    The trailer ramps had to be modified slightly so we could fix 'em
    in place on the trailer...this took a little time, but we "got 'er
    done."

    We decided that the best place to unload the race car would be
    with the rear axle of the trailer in the gutter:



This worked fine...until I put the transmission into reverse. Nothing. No drive to the wheels at all. Shit.

    We ended up pushing the car off the trailer (the ramps worked out
    fine) and then using a floor jack to get the rear end off the
    ground, we dragged the rear end of the car around so that we could
    use our high-tech push truck arrangement:



    Poor folks has poor ways, it seems.  I tried firing the motor up
    and testing all gear positions, but there's nothing there but a
    box of neutrals.  Damn!, said he.  That transmission had less that
    10 miles on it.  The park pawl still works, so it isn't a broken
    output shaft and it's not hemorrhaging ATF, so I don't really know
    what the problem is.

    But for the moment, the race car is back in the garage and the
    licensed cars (Burb and Camaro) are outside in the driveway while
    I try to figger out what's wrong.  Here's some of my dilemma:  I'm
    gonna have to replace the rear end.  Robert, is that 8.5" peg-leg
still available? It may be the ticket to solve that problem. Then there's the transmission thing. I'll pull the pan and see
    what I find, but my head is screaming, "T-56!  I know a T-5 won't
    handle 500+ hp, (I guess a World Class T-5 might be close) so that
    leaves a Tremec 5-speed, the T-56 or a built-up TH200-4R or
    TH700R4.  I spose if the rear gear was low (numerically) enough I
    could use a Muncie or T-10.

    I really don't know what I'll do at this time.  But I'll think of
    something (to mis-quote Arthur C. Clarke in "A Space Odyssey.")

    r


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