[elky] Re: Oh, hell!

From: STILLFRANKSFAULT@xxxxxxx
To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:08:33 -0400 (EDT)
If that was the case the drive shaft would be turning.  
 
Smokey Mt Frank  

 
In a message dated 10/30/2011 5:07:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wheelsolias@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

 
I just thought of  something. Are you sure it’s the trans? I was just 
driving along one day,  under WOT, and boom. No forward or reverse. I thought 
it 
was the trans. Turns  out, I blew the ring and pinion to smithereens. I 
experienced the same thing  as you.  
Just a  thought. 
Carrie 
 
  
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Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:51  PM
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Subject: [elky] Re: Oh,  hell!
 
IMO for  the type of racing on the salt I would think the automatic would 
be the better  choice. No hard launches to contend with. But I have never 
done  it.
 

 
Smokey  Mt Frank  
 

 
 
In a  message dated 10/30/2011 11:24:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

Yep.   I think you have a pretty good handle on it.  I hadn't thought about 
 the case crack, since there's no leaking, but an internal crack is a  
distinct possibility.  

The pump  is a REAL possibility.  Jim and I discussed this after we got it 
into  the garage.  I'm looking into manual transmissions.  I didn't like  
the feel of a race car with the automatic, so it's not like I'm grieving  over 
the possibility of having a third pedal in the  car.

r


On 10/30/2011 7:46 AM, _STILLFRANKSFAULT@xxxxxxxx 
(mailto:STILLFRANKSFAULT@xxxxxxx)  wrote:   
 
Interesting  transmission problem, might want to rethink the chain of 
events at the time  it shut down. We know it was running hard, and lost the 
drive 
shaft. The  sudden stop, or jerk/torque could have damaged the pump, and 
that would give  you no power in any gear. Or when you shift up top it's not 
happening at,or  inside the trans. Either way its toast. I suspect a crack in 
the case  internality from the drive shaft that is bleeding off the  
pressure.
 
Just  my two cents.
 

 
Smokey  Mt Frank  
 

 
 
In a  message dated 10/30/2011 12:57:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
_rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx)   writes:



Race  Car.  What else?

Yesterday I got the driveshaft in it, and I  was gonna unload it from the 
trailer.  



But  the battery was dead, even though it had been disconnected.  Maybe a  
current leak was discovered when Marlo and his posse loaded it on the  
trailer and they disconnected the battery after it was close to  flat.

So after charging the battery, Jim came over and we were  ready to unload.  
First thing that happened when I fired up the motor  was the ejection of a 
buncha water and possibly oil from the  exhaust:



This  wasn't all that encouraging, except that a check of the radiator 
didn't  show any oil and the oil (on the dipstick) didn't show any water.   
This 
one remains a mystery.



Then the long-awaited cleaning  of the whiteboard.  We started a whole new 
list.

The trailer  ramps had to be modified slightly so we could fix 'em in place 
on the  trailer...this took a little time, but we "got 'er done."

We  decided that the best place to unload the race car would be with the 
rear  axle of the trailer in the gutter:



This worked fine...until  I put the transmission into reverse.  Nothing.  
No drive to the  wheels at all.  Shit.  

We ended up pushing the car off  the trailer (the ramps worked out fine) 
and then using a floor jack to get  the rear end off the ground, we dragged 
the rear end of the car around so  that we could use our high-tech push truck  
arrangement:



Poor folks has poor ways, it seems.  I  tried firing the motor up and 
testing all gear positions, but there's  nothing there but a box of neutrals.  
Damn!, said he.  That  transmission had less that 10 miles on it.  The park 
pawl still  works, so it isn't a broken output shaft and it's not hemorrhaging 
ATF, so  I don't really know what the problem is.  

But for the moment,  the race car is back in the garage and the licensed 
cars (Burb and Camaro)  are outside in the driveway while I try to figger out 
what's wrong.   Here's some of my dilemma:  I'm gonna have to replace the 
rear  end.  Robert, is that 8.5" peg-leg still available?  It may be  the 
ticket to solve that problem.  Then there's the transmission  thing.  I'll pull 
the pan and see what I find, but my head is  screaming, "T-56!  I know a T-5 
won't handle 500+ hp, (I guess a  World Class T-5 might be close) so that 
leaves a Tremec 5-speed, the T-56  or a built-up TH200-4R or TH700R4.  I 
spose if the rear gear was low  (numerically) enough I could use a Muncie or 
T-10.  

I really  don't know what I'll do at this time.  But I'll think of 
something  (to mis-quote Arthur C. Clarke in "A Space Odyssey.")

r
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