[elky] Re: Floor the 28th - Non
- From: Robert Adams <elcam84@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:33:28 -0600
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Brian M <ctsvmongo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm jot sure how this hickory would look like a warehouse floor?
>
Hickory/pecan (The wood police let you sell either under the
hickory name as pecan is a hickory).. ANyway it's been very popular for
decades for use in warehouses and machine shops. It's hard durable and
cheap.
> But its not what I think of, when I think of hickory cabinets, which are
> usually very colorful with knots and variances.
>
Hd got a load of knotty hickory cabinets in. Sitting in the
middle of the aisle. Not moving at all here. It doesn't do well here cause
it looks too much like sticker wood and allot of old wood paneling.
> This flooring is very consistant, compared to the cabinets I've seen(which
> is cool too) oak is stainable but each peice will take stain differently,
> and each section of a piece will as well, so its hard to stain a dark color.
>
Oak is extremely easy to stain evenly. Try staining cherry
or maple. They are all over the board with blotches. Course if you are
using minwax or varathane stain or pretty much any stain from a home
improvement store you will be very upset at the finish. Minwax stain is
just oil and a drop of color in a can. Now Ash is used in allot of the
country for cabinets etc and it has a much more pronounced grain than oak
and is very hard and very difficult to stain evenly.
> Dark cherry stained oak cabinets just don't look right most of the time,
> and cherry is real expensive, so we see maple and birch stained whatever
> color your heart desires, it takes stain very consistantly and holds up
> relatively well, costs about half of cherry.
>
To get maple and birch to stain evenly you basically have to
seal the grain and then the stain sits on top of that sealer so you loose
some of the texture you would get with a typical stain. They can look
really good but to get it right takes more time than building the unit.
> I have a gee high quality clear alder bedroom set, it is solid wood and
> amazing, a gift from my whole family for putting myself thru college and
> getting my degree in business mangement. It's got a clear coat on it, very
> pretty wood, but way too soft, it dents so easily and it kindof drives me
> crazy cause I can't have things not right. Dents in my dressers... Ok
> again I'm crazy.
>
Yeah there are a number of woods I really like but they
are just too soft for most people. As long as you don't touch it you are
fine.... Don't see much alder and it's softer than yellow pine...
Robert Adams
> On Nov 13, 2011 12:58 PM, "Mary McCarthy" <printces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> yeah, that is frustrating. Our house was advertised as 'oak
>>> throughout'. Some of the moulding and the doors are oak, but the rest is
>>> just stain grade something that matches. I"ve been using Minwax 'early
>>> American' to match. It's kind of a mid-tone. And there are those who
>>> probably would not think it was oak because it is that tone. My dining
>>> room set (from 1928) is white oak stained very dark. I use that very dark
>>> Jacobean to touch it up. But - like I said - my kitchen table (subject to
>>> a refinish every 10 years or so) is natural golden oak. To be even more
>>> confusing I bought a sideboard to match at an estate sale with poor
>>> lighting. It LOOKED like oak but the "oak" was painted on. After removing
>>> that goo, it's a collection of woods. My fav is the bottom of the bottom
>>> drawer - fruit crates from the Rogue River Valley. <G>
>>>
>>
>> Hickory would make a nice floor. I've never seen it around here used
>> that way. Popular for kitchen cabinets. The alder has lots of knots and
>> grain business. SOme of the knots are big and black and go completely
>> through to door. But even compared to knotty pine it's soft.
>>
>> don't laugh but I like Maple for the simple reason that - of all the
>> kitchens through all the moves - I've never had a maple one. I would have
>> thought warehouse floors down there would be heart pine. It's big in the
>> south. Like you said - tastes are regional.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> What I find frustrating is that people say they want
>>> cherry or walnut or whatever then you ask them what color they want it.
>>> They go silent... People now because of mass produced crap associate a type
>>> of wood with a color. When they say cherry that means a form of red same
>>> with mahogony and dark brown for walnut and they all assume oak is light in
>>> color. Funny thing is 99% of the stuff out there is made from red oak and
>>> just stained a color and people see that color and think cherry.
>>> It's really hard to get people to understand that the color
>>> is the stain not the wood type. In the church project people keep asking if
>>> it's cherry and no it's not except for the crown moulding which is very
>>> nice cherry but once stained is indistinguishable from oak to the general
>>> public anyway.
>>>
>>> I like hickory flooring but it isn't popular here cause it
>>> looks like a warehouse floor. I saw allot of hickory flooring in Ohio.Gives
>>> the refurbed farm houses a ski lodge feel. So much is regional as well.
>>> Here there is everything not many current trends other than travertine tile
>>> is popular cause it looks good and it's relatively cheap compared to some
>>> tiles.
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert Adams
>>>
>>>
>>
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