[elky] Re: Finally a day under 100* and water falling from the sky!!! And a pic of the face frames for the laundry room cabinets
- From: Robert Adams <elcam84@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:16:32 -0500
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Mary McCarthy <printces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Just taking a quick break here before Sandwich Of The Day (or Fix a Plate
> and Take it Outside). Put down a lot of tile but still have a lot to go.
> Pretty. A little darker than it looked at HD but I like it. Kinda
> pre-dirty. All it would need to make it perfect would be pre-applied paw
> prints.
>
That's the same plan for the laundry room. Got some redish
brown tile the PO left and the sand will blend in well. I'm 5 tiles short...
Trying to find another box before I put it down. I may end up putting a
similar tile down under the cabinets where they won't be seen. I like all
the tile to be in then put in the cabinets.
>
> hmmm- I can see the auto paints in the laundry. Take a beating and still
> look nice. Nice face frames, btw. You definitely want raised panels -
> otherwise it looks like a plywood kitchen.
>
Got a few different styles I'm looking at making. Going to go for
an arts and crafts look in the rest of the house so I will make them a
painted version of that. Not worried about that till I get them in place...
The lowers will all be drawers and same with the tall cabinet. Drawers are
much more usable than a shelf.
> We ended up not rearranging the cabinets because (get this) we opened an
> exploratory hole where we wanted the doorway and inside is the sink drain
> running horizontally inside the wall. (to where?) aggghhhh.
>
Yeah Know how those are. Allot of plumbing runs are done to
use as little pipe and vents as possible. Really every drain should have
it's own vent going up the wall but it's a pain to do. You can tie multiple
vents together (to a point) and have less roof penetrations.
>
> yeah, that particle board is awful stuff. The way it crumbled and was dry
> and dirty (house was built in '96) I'd be very wary of it used in a house
> structurally.
>
I'm surprised to see a house that new with PB floors. I do like
PB for some things but floors aren't it... There are some new particle
boards now made out of basically grasses and they are quite a bit stronger
than the conventional yellow pine or whatever we have to shred up stuff.
Some even have water resistant glues as well.
Most cabinets are made from PB and anything melamine is PB
underneath. It's easier to work with cause it's flat and stays flat.
Building and installing cabinets made out of plywood can often be a struggle
with warping plywood. It warps as it sits in the shop...
> It all fit into garbage bags, all small pieces. According to our dump
> receipt, we took 800 lbs. in. The Hardie backer replaced it. I really like
> that stuff. The Durock seemed more like flaky cement in a mesh bag. The
> lines on it really helped amateurs like us, too. Little hard to screw
> into, but nice to cut and whatnot, but Dan conquered it nicely.
>
Yup I'm not a fan of durok. I need 4x8 sheets of 1/4 hardiebacker
but not even the commercial yards carry it. The 1/4 is actually better than
the 1/2" in strength and 1/2 is mainly used if you have to make up floor
thickness.
>
> Hot here today - 86* but the humidity is only 23%, good for drying tile
> mastic.
>
> Mary
>
>
106* and 30% humidity here as usual.Heat index
is typically around 110 every day... Lows at night are barely hitting 85
before the sun comes up. In the 90s till the early hours of the morning too.
Robert Adams
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> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Mary McCarthy <printces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Weather sounds a little more liveable. good to hear.
>>
>
>
> It was fore all of one day. Was back to 100* the next
> day then back to 104*+ since then.
>
>>
>> Instead of paint, what about a white stain on the oak - the grain will
>> show but it will be light and easy to keep clean with a clear topcoat?
>> couldn't get the photo link to do anything, but it sounds nice. Laundry
>> used to be a washing machine in the basement but times change; it's nice to
>> have a place for 'clothing maintenance'.
>>
>
> I have done similar to that before. The hint of grain
> doesn't look too bad. As for paint for it I plan to use enamel paint on it
> (Automotive enamel). Very common to use car paints on cabinets especially
> using clear coat on cabinets in high end houses. The clearcoat is so much
> more durable than any conventional finish and can be sanded/buffed if needed
> and easy to respray a spot if needed.
>
>
> Here is a direct link to the pic. Sometimes Gmail
> doesn't always embed them for all e-mail programs to show them.
> http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l206/elcam84/new%20house/001-5.jpg
>
> I haven't done anything else with the cabinets yet
> still need to do the flooring and walls... And been cutting panels from the
> big glue ups to turn into raised panels for the church job. Was running them
> through the drum sander and it was running odd so I took the machine apart
> thursday night cleaned everything and regreased then adjusted it and it's
> working better now. Sure easier than flattening panels the old way by hand.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> We're working on the kitchen/bath/laundry complex. Who knew it would take
>> a week to get the flooring up? It was cheeeeep vinyl glued to particle
>> board with a bizzilion nails holding it down.
>>
>
> Eww. I really don't like particleboard decking. It's
> considered a no no and should be replaced with ply or OSB. But...
>
> Allot of people prefer ply still but the OSB now is
> stiffer than ply and more dimensionally stable and the glues used now are
> much more waterproof. Even the lowest grade is rated for rain exposure for 2
> weeks. If I could afford it and was strong enough I'd use 1 1/8 ply. It's
> nice stuff but takes a forklift to handle. ALso that's allot of added weight
> to the house and you have to consider what your framing will support.
>
>
>> But HD is delivering a bunch of tile and backer board Tuesday. We
>> should have the mess cleaned up by then. Tomorrow is Trip No. 2 to the dump
>> with bags of particles. But so far, so good - nothing broken and no one
>> seriously injured. Found an incredible mouse mess under the vanity in the
>> bathroom, yuck.
>>
>
>
> You aren't working if you aren't bleeding.... I have been
> using the fir plywood I pulled out of the house for shop stuff and now that
> old fir plywood was some of the best stuff made... Strong good plys real
> glue and just nice material but... Fir creates splinters worse than any
> other wood and you feel the big ones and they are big and go deep but there
> are many little ones that you won't see till a day or two later. A little
> xacto knife work later and you will get them all.
>
>
>>
>> And we took Thursday off to go to the county fair - highlight is a barn
>> full of fire engines and fire trucks (I now know there is a difference).
>> they dated from 1805 to 2011. The ones from the late 20's had straight 6's
>> in them - 1300 ci 6's. cylinders so big they need 2 spark plugs. Way
>> cool.
>>
>> I want one.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
> Cool. Lots of variations over the years with those and
> even today they are all custom built for each fire dpt to suit their needs.
> My grandfather worked for Chrysler in detroit most of it at the stamping
> plant on 8 mile road and they were building fire trucks and he got to drive
> the back end of them a couple times.
>
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> Robert Adams
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>> Well Saturday was the first day it didn't hit 100*. It
>> was only 88* and the low was 72*. We haven't seen 72* outside in months and
>> rarely inside unless you are in a refrigerator or a movie theater. The high
>> has been 100* or higher since the end of MAY so around 80 days straight...
>> The *official* numbers at DFW are always skewed from the actual numbers and
>> show cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter compared to everywhere
>> else....
>> It started raining early sat morning and some areas
>> got up to 1.5". We got about 1" which brings us up to about 2" for the year.
>> It's been overcast all day here for the most part and I hoped we would get
>> another day under 100* but as usual no... It's been 100* since about 3:00
>> and miserable humidity as the ground is wet... So at least we got a short
>> break from the heat and a little moisture. Tomorrow we are back to 104* as
>> usual and no change for quite a while...
>>
>>
>> So since it was nice yesterday I fired up the AC in
>> the shop early and got out there and did a bunch of clean up and for a
>> change built something for the house instead of for someone else. It was too
>> wet and muggy to work on the luandry room so I got the sink size etc and
>> started designing the cabinets for the laundry room and made the two face
>> frames for them.
>> Made them out of scrap red oak from other jobs. The tall one will
>> be next to the stacked washer and dryer and won't be attached too tightly in
>> place so it can be removed for washer and dryer maintenance. I haven't put
>> the cross pieces in the frame because I haven't figured out how the drawers
>> and doors will lay out. The lowers will be drawers and the uppers will be
>> doors.
>> The sink cabinet will also have more drawers. The outer two holes
>> below the small drawers will house probably two drawers each. So 3 on each
>> side and the middle will be doors due to the sink which is rather deep and
>> wide 33" wide x 12" deep. The counter top will extend about 10" off to the
>> left of the lower cabinet.
>>
>> All will end up being painted in the laundry room. Still
>> need to figure out what the walls are going to be... Probably beadboard up
>> to the window sill then painted drywall above that to a detailed ceiling of
>> some sort. I know some will ask why I would paint the oak but... I had the
>> oak and would have to order paint grade maple so....
>>
>> Anyway at least I finally had a day in the shop to do
>> something for me instead of a job. Course back to others stuff tomorrow. Oh
>> and the shop was very nice yesterday... Was mid 70s in the shop before
>> lunch.... Went in for lunch then came back out and it was down to 65
>> already. Sure does get nice and cold when it's not 100* out....
>>
>> [image: 001-5.jpg]
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>> Robert Adams
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