Actually, a lot of them are in Europe too, they don't have phone tracing or something like that. I can't remember what the exact reason is, but they can have a phone line there with nobody knowing who owns it, and its ok. They can jump ship and move on, and nobody knows where the number came from. www.fbi.gov/cyberinvest/cyberhome.html Not sure how true that is, but my brother in law is a fraud investigation team manager at PayPal/Ebay, some of the things he has told me people do is crazy. Send any scams to spoof@xxxxxxxxxx and they will forward it to the right place. -----Original Message----- From: elky-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:elky-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Lindh Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 2:47 PM To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [elky] Re: Autotrader Scam Actually this older eBay listing has the photos (Edge programmer and DVD player photos are identical): http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160354840924 As to the morality of these people... this is their day job, and most of them are in Africa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_fraud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_organized_crime On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Chris Lindh<chrislindh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Look at the photo of the Edge programmer, it is the exact same photo. > I'm guessing the wheels, etc are from when it was for sale some time > in the past - or the owner posted them on a forum somewhere. > > The phone # for the Autotrader ad is not in service... it's a scam. > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:12 PM, > ladams21@xxxxxxxxxxxx<ladams21@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> DIfferent rims different tires different pics. Mileage is close. >> Didn't see vin n umbers to compare. >> >> >> >> >> Seems I've found the same truck for sale in Vermont and Arizona... >> seem odd? Check it out: >> >> Sunny Scottsdale: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1503693 >> 23597 >> >> Shady Bennington: http://tinyurl.com/mmdb5z >> >> See the response from the seller (below)... sound like he doesn't >> know what he's selling? >> >> I should ask him if I can come see the truck... I'll probably just >> report the ad and be done wasting my time... >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - >> http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE >> >> >> >> >> Rules: Please play nicely with others. >> >> -List members page (text & pic links): >> http://www.myelcamino.net/eclist.htm >> -List members page (all pics): >> http://www.myelcamino.net/ec_list.htm >> >> > Rules: Please play nicely with others. -List members page (text & pic links): http://www.myelcamino.net/eclist.htm -List members page (all pics): http://www.myelcamino.net/ec_list.htm Rules: Please play nicely with others. -List members page (text & pic links): http://www.myelcamino.net/eclist.htm -List members page (all pics): http://www.myelcamino.net/ec_list.htm