Re: [ee_shoppahs] Just letting everyone know
- From: James Coghlan <jcoghlan@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:22:39 -0700 (PDT)
I vote for a quick switch to Jack's machines. At worst, it will only be
temporary. It does solve the immediate problem of privacy.
James
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From: Jack L. Poller <poller@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 1:15:01 PM
Subject: Re: [ee_shoppahs] Just letting everyone know
Folks:
I have plenty of servers & space.
If you’re interested, please contact me.
Jack Poller
poller@xxxxxxxxxxx
510-919-5100
From:ee_shoppahs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ee_shoppahs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Nick Collins
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:15 AM
To: ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ee_shoppahs] Just letting everyone know
I'll suggest again before we go back to LSOFT...if someone already has host
service somewhere, all we need to do is purchase a domain for $10 per year.
Then
we can host as many discussion lists as we want. I think that someone already
even owns a shoppahs domain.
Nick
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:42 AM, John Laverdier <john.laverdier@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
As I suspected, the "realtime" emails are private, but the double talking SOBs
later make all of our "archives" searchable on google, and that's how they
make
their money. Google advertisers pay to put ads on the archive searches.
They don't tell users that up front, you have to ask the right questions,
which I just now got around to doing.
May I suggest that someone do some digging to make sure that none of our
old LSOFT emails can be found via similar google or other search mechanisms ?
In the meantime, I will contact LSOFT ( our previous provider) and see about
getting us back on that system. At this point, I really don't trust ANY free
system, the old adage comes to mind........................
There just ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
In our case, we cannot expect a free server to be accountable to us, that
would
imply an exchange of money.
Sorry for being too trusting, this just reinforces my normal cynical nature,
which I'll be going back to, thank you very much.
And....................Mike, thanks for being a trouble maker, you may have
ruined the good day I was having, but thanks.
L8R
PS. This raises another question though, do any of our personal email
providers
make email archives open to public search ?
--- On Thu, 8/26/10, john laverdier <j_laverdier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>From: john laverdier <j_laverdier@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [ee_shoppahs] Just letting everyone know
>To: "ee shoppahs" <ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 2:05 PM
>
>Yeah,
>
>It's worse than I thought, I was able to get into Freelists and browse our
>emails without logging in at all. Anybody can apparently do it with the
>right link.
>
>I'm going to contact their staff about it, but I suspect that we are going
>to end
>
>up going back to LSOFT and paying the fees.
>
>L8R
>
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>--- On Thu, 8/26/10, poller@xxxxxxxxxxx <poller@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>From: poller@xxxxxxxxxxx <poller@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [ee_shoppahs] Just letting everyone know
>To: "john laverdier" <j_laverdier@xxxxxxxxx>, ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 8:56 AM
>http://www.google.com/m/search?q=ee-shoppahs
>
>Returned a bunch of emails including one from 13 August.
>
>Clicking pn the link brings up the full email
>
>Jack
>
>Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
>
>----- Reply message -----
>From: "john laverdier" <j_laverdier@xxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Thu, Aug 26, 2010 6:42 am
>Subject: [ee_shoppahs] Just letting everyone know
>To: <ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>Mike,
>
>I have all the options marked "private" so that nobody else can
>join, and nobody can read our emails. Freelists has admin programmable
>options that allow some of the lists to be "open" and some "closed".
>Ours is configured for private.
>
>If you can prove otherwise, I'm all ears. (it's possible that
>I've got a hole in the config, but I don't think so).
>
>L8R
>
>PS. Stuart Horton tried but was unable to get a list of other
>members email addresses from the freelists server. That's why I
>mailed it to the list.
>
>
>
>
>
>--- On Wed, 8/25/10, Dave VanHatten <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> From: Dave VanHatten <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [ee_shoppahs] Just letting everyone know
>> To: "ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ee_shoppahs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 10:41 PM
>> Michael,
>>
>> Is this true? What makes you think so? Give us
>> an example!
>>
>>
>> Michael C. Kavcak wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey gang,
>> >
>> > Now that we've moved the shoppahs listserv to
>> freelists, it's now findable by Google. Just thought
>> everyone should be made aware that the rest of the world can
>> now read our emails, in case you didn't know.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Michael C. Kavcak, CEO|709 Horseback Hollow|"The
>> ultimate measure of man is not where
>> >
>> > Sarge's Invincible |Austin, TX
>> 78732 | he stands in moments of comfort and
>> >
>> > Consulting
>> |512-266-3734 | convenience, but
>> where he stands at
>> >
>> > http://www.kavcak.com/ |sarge@xxxxxxxxxx
>> | times of challenge and controversy"-MLK
>> >
>> >
>> >
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