[duxuser] Re: Spam Characteristics: Re: NEED HELP WITH PARAGRAPH STYLE



George,
I am not taking it personally, just made an observation. ;) Its like getting peeved with deaf people whose written language skills are not on the same level as those of hearing people. Its not the fault of the deaf person so much as its the fault of the education system.

I also see blind people who grew up with braille and cannot spell to save their lives. Yes they can learn but if they had the proper education early on, it would not be an issue.

I have done things a certain way for years and now I must overcome this as my vision fails. Its hell. But I must do it. And I do lvoe braille and what it does for me.

So I hope I can learn from this lsit without seeing a class of people put down in any way. If transcribers are paid to transcribe, then their job duties includes cleaning up messes. ;) And that is an advantage for me because I can learn from you all who have learned to clean up the messes in some fashion.

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A pessimist thinks everybody is as nasty as himself, and hates them for it.
-- George Bernard Shaw
Robert & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie)
Newport, Oregon
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----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:33 AM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Spam Characteristics: Re: NEED HELP WITH PARAGRAPH STYLE




Hi Robert,

I certainly wouldn't take it personally in any way, shape or
form.  Indeed quite the reverse, or you would not be on this
list at all.

What Jean (I believe) and I are talking about are those who
simply refuse to learn.  They have done things a specific
way for ever, and are not about to change -- for anyone.

In a very extreme case we had a while ago, a lady had hand
typed a THIRTY page Table of Contents. Printed the whole
document, then manually entered the page numbers.

There was not one single Style in a 700 plus page document.
And yet the document looked visually perfect.

She had been using Word for years, and had always done
things this way.

Can you imagine how long it would have taken to sort that
mess out into braille?

Fortunately in this particular case, the lady concerned was
delighted that we provided her with the training her bosses
should have allowed her years ago, and she went away a happy
camper.

But sadly this is not always the case.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert
Clark
Sent: 21 January 2007 17:17
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Spam Characteristics: Re: NEED HELP
WITH PARAGRAPH STYLE



   I dont wish to start a war but find comments like "You
definitely don't
build in tools to accommodate the stupidity of users." to be
less than
helpful.

   I ahve been using Word in some version or another since
95 and am still,
well, not a proficient Word processor.  Does that put me in
the same group
as the one in the above quote?  I hope not because now I
have reason to
learn how to use Word more effectively.

   We will always have people who do things with less than
perfection.
That is the way it is and always will be.

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There are 24 hours in a day, and 24 beers in a case.
Coincidence? I think
not!
Robert & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie)
Newport, Oregon
N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup
rclark0276@xxxxxxxxxxx
http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:20 AM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Spam Characteristics: Re: NEED HELP
WITH PARAGRAPH
STYLE




Steve, but what you need to figure out is how to use
search and replace
and macros to do fixes to poorly prepared documents, and
work to educate
people in word processing skills.  You definitely don't
build in tools to
accommodate the stupidity of users. All that does it tell
people that it's
okay to do things the way they've always done them... No
wonder literacy
and grammar and other skills are going down the tubes...

Jean

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