Dear Victoria, I've never tried to do any kind of editing like that which you describe. If the braille file's not too large, it could be manually edited. I suppose one could write a program that could automate the process of stripping out unwanted line and measure heading, etc. from the electronic braille file of the score and even repaginating if need be. If each line in the open score has a unique instrument abbreviation in the margin, then the program could find and delete those lines based on that search criterion. Of course, make a back-up of original before beginning such tinkering! If you have the source notation file or if you wish to create one, Dancing Dots' GOODFEEL software has a great deal of flexibility for creating the braille for selected parts in a score. GOODFEEL can create an ensemble transcription, one transcription for each of the 4 voices, and a bar-over-bar transcription of the accompaniment based on available transcription options. All information must be in the source Lime file. With GOODFEEL 3, one can import MusicXML versions of scores which can be exported from such popular commercial notation software as Sibelius and Finale. A couple of important things to know: the current version of GOODFEEL can show both words and music only for individual vocal parts. In other words, GOODFEEL can not yet produce a standard vocal score (the music lay-out that shows all vocal parts with words and music) although it can produce instrumental scores (the music lay-out that shows the notes for all instruments but no lyrics). So, in your example, GOODFEEL can show individual music lines for Soprano, Alto, Tenor and Bass (SATB) in a score format but not the words for all 4 parts as would be expected in a vocal score. All we need to add such support to the software is time and money (smile)! Also, with more time and money, we can teach GOODFEEL to automatically transcribe pieces that show multiple verses of lyrics. Presently, GOODFEEL only automatically brailles words for verse 1 for individual parts. For example, we can ask GOODFEEL to braille both the words and music for the tenor part and the tenor will see a line of lyrics followed by the music line for those words in each music parallel on the braille page. Verses 2 and beyond can be shown as literary braille below music transcription. This solution will work particularly well now that we have our first release of an optional integration with Duxbury. Otherwise, one must edit the music source file to copy and paste the music for verse 1 to create music for verses 2 and beyond. Then manually type in lyrics where they belong. I invite anyone who's interested in greater detail to write me off-list at my info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx address. HTH, Bill _____ From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 4:20 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: Open Score vs Standard Score Format Hi Victoria, I believe Bill McCann of Dancing Dots is on the list, and hopefully has a more in depth knowledge about your question. I draw it to Bell's attention anyway. George. _____ From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Family Services Association Sent: 20 April 2006 19:33 To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Open Score vs Standard Score Format Any DBT-using music braillists . . . Has anyone ever successfully manipulated the e-file of an open score ensemble piece, such as a SATB chorus with piano accompaniment, into standard format for each of the four voices + separate accompaniment? Or, vice versa? Or, is it more likely that one would need to produce separate transcriptions? i.e., one ensemble transcription, one transcription for each of the 4 voices, and a bar-over-bar transcription of the accompaniment. I'll ask this question of music braillists attending the NBA conference next week but will be interested in hearing from anyone out there who has any experience in this type of thing. Thanx! Victoria Scarborough