[duxuser] Re: Automatic paragraph styles in 10.5
- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 15:00:19 -0000
OK, Ann, that makes perfect sense.
Now to work on an appropriate Style for you.
George.
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> Subject: [duxuser] Re: Automatic paragraph styles in 10.5
>
> My particular situation requires me to emboss a lot of
> handouts with numbered and bulleted lists. That paragraph
> style that indents the first line plays havoc with those
> lists. Also, due to the fact that the bulk of our
brailled
> documents includes forms, meeting notes, training
materials,
> and everything under the sun except literary reading
> materials, having a skipped line helps the braille reader
to
> locate the next item more quickly with a scanning finger
down
> the left margin. If we were doing textbooks or other
> literary docs like library books, etc, I would be happy to
> have the traditional paragraph of a cell three
> indent.
>
>
> Ann Foxworth, Braille Consultant
> Div. for Blind Services
> 4800 N. Lamar BLVD
> Austin, TX 78756
> PH: 512-377-0471,
> E-mail: ann.foxworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:27 AM
> To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: Automatic paragraph styles in 10.5
>
> Hi Ann,
>
> I'm curious to know why you should have to change
paragraph
> Styles to include a blank line between then, and begin in
cell 1?
>
> I could understand there being a few very exceptional
> circumstances, but both BANA and BAUK recommend no blank
> line, and beginning the paragraph in cell 3.
>
> I know for sure that if we deviated from the BAUK
recommended
> paragraph format here in the UK, we would be inundated
with
> complaints from experienced braille readers.
>
> George.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Foxworth, Ann
> > Sent: 01 March 2005 13:19
> > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Automatic paragraph styles in
10.5
> >
> > Well, I'm the biggest dummie in the world because, even
> after
> > all the advice you all have given me about how to create
> such
> > a style, I still can not do it in real life. I wonder
why
>
> > there aren't any styles already available in Duxbury to
address
> > differing paragraph styles. I hope that in some future
> version, the
> > Word importer will either have a
> choice
> > for the ones most commonly used or a "none" setting so
> that
> > we can expect Duxbury to utilize the paragraph style we
> set
> > up in our Word docs.
> >
> >
> > Ann Foxworth, Braille Consultant
> > Div. for Blind Services
> > 4800 N. Lamar BLVD
> > Austin, TX 78756
> > PH: 512-377-0471,
> > E-mail: ann.foxworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > On Behalf Of Dave Durber
> > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:22 PM
> > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Automatic paragraph styles in
10.5
> >
> > Hello Steve, Ann and Listers:
> >
> > While Steve's suggestion is probably the correct
solution
> for
> > a document that will contain block paragraphs from
> beginning
> > to end, it is cumbersome if a document is to contain a
mixture of
> > standard formatted braille paragraphs and block
>
> > braille paragraphs.
> >
> > The reason for this, is that you would have to remember
to
>
> > insert the [svprgn:n] code before each paragraph code or
style when
> > you wanted to change from one paragraph type to
>
> > the other, as follows:
> >
> > [svprg0:1]
> >
> > prior to starting block paragraphs, so that all
paragraphs
>
> > are blocked to the left margin and have a blank line
> before
> > and after each block paragraph; and
> >
> > [svprg3:0]
> >
> > prior to starting standard formatted paragraphs, where
the
>
> > first line of each paragraph is indented to cell 3 and
> there
> > is no blank line before and after each paragraph.
> >
> > The beauty and advantage of creating styles which
contain
> the
> > correct codes built into them, is that if you construct
> the
> > style correctly to produce the desired result, you do
not have to
> > remember anything else, except apply the correct style
at the
> > appropriate places throughout any document
> where
> > you want those types of styles.
> >
> > This is why when I am preparing documents for
> transcription
> > to braille, I style code documents as much as possible
instead of
> > manually coding documents.
> >
> > Some of the advantages of using styles, are as follows:
> > virtually eliminates the mistyping the syntax in codes;
> minimizes the
> > possibility of leaving out a code in a
> string
> > of codes; avoids having to search for strings of codes
in order to
> > make changes especially if you do not enter a
> string
> > of codes in the same order throughout a document.
> >
> > On the other hand, if you want to change a code or
> parameter
> > within a code that is contained in a style to alter the
output, you
> > only have to edit a code or codes contained in
> a
> > style to affect the output globally throughout a
document,
>
> > where that style is used.
> >
> > In 1995, I transcribed the "JAWS for DOS" manual". I
> manually coded
> > the file from beginning to end. I took
> nearly
> > four weeks to produce the completed work. It contained
6
> volumes and
> > had approximately 700 sides of braille.
> >
> > Last year, I transcribed "Verbal View of Word Basics".
> > Except for a few codes that needed to be entered
manually,
> I
> > used styles 98% of the time to produce the finished
book.
> It
> > contains 7 volumes and has 986 sides of braille. It
took
> me
> > 10, 8 hour days to produce the book.
> >
> > The two examples, do not include the proofreading time.
> >
> > Sincerely:
> >
> > Dave Durber
> >
> >
> >
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