Hi David, Just so that everyone knows what we are talking about, (or perhaps I should say "up against"!!) I thought I would copy the relevant section from the new, "British Braille". Why do there always have to be exceptions? George. 6.7. ROMAN NUMERALS 6.7.1. Roman numerals are generally coded according to the standard rules on the letter sign (5.6.2 and 5.6.6), and the rules on capitals (e.g. 5.2.2). However, for capital Roman numerals consisting of 2 or more letters, the capital word indicator is always used (regardless of the normal preference rule in 5.2.10). If capitals are not generally being shown, upper case Roman numerals are treated as if lower case, unless the distinction between upper and lower case Roman numerals needs to be preserved. Examples: v ;v V ;,v ii ;ii II ,,ii xxxiv ;xxxiv XXXIV ,,xxxiv 6.7.2. As an exception to 5.6.2, where a Roman numeral brailled as lower case is followed by an abbreviation point, both the letter sign and abbreviation point should be retained. Example: xii. ;xii4 6.7.3. As required by the rules for the letter sign and capital indicators, Roman numerals joined by a hyphen or dash are treated separately as regards these composition signs. Examples: lxxxix‑cxliv ;lxxxix‑;cxliv VIII‑XIII ,,viii‑,,xiii VIII‑X ,,viii‑;,x lv–lxxxix ;lv‑‑;lxxxix 6.7.4. Letters following Roman numerals are brailled according to 5.6.8. Examples: XVa ,,xv;a XVa ;xv;a (not showing capitals) iiB ;ii,b iiB ;ii;b (not showing capitals) Roman numerals may also be used in conjunction with Arabic numbers. (In the example the print stop separator is omitted in braille in accordance with 6.1.7.) Example: Hamlet IV.2 ,hamlet ,,iv#b 6.7.5. Roman numerals should be separated from their ordinal terminations by the abbreviation point, and the case of terminations may generally be ignored. Contractions may be used in terminations unless preceded by the letter sign. Note that both methods of coding foreign accents are possible. Examples: xth ;x4? Xth ,x4? xxist ;xxi4/ XXIst ,,xxi4/ Ier ,i4] XIIe ,,xii4e XIIème ,,xii4@eme XIIème ,,xii4;!me > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Spybey > Sent: 24 May 2004 16:22 > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] roman numerals > > In the beta version there is still the old problem that roman > numerals are not indicated with a letter sign except for (i) > and (v) when they are listed as question numbers. > This is in British no capitals > > David Spybey > * * * > * This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. > * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with > * unsubscribe > * as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also > * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription > * options by visiting http://www.freelists.org. The list archive > * is also located there. > * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com > * * * > > This Message has been scanned for viruses by McAfee Groupshield.