[duxhelp] Re: Windows Installer Warnings

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:12:53 -0400

Michael,

I'm please to hear that you consider the errors/warnings to be few.  In
fact, I run a validator every time the installer is built, so I am aware of
errors and warnings.  However, I run the validation before the
"Localizations" and "Localized_Errors" tables are added, so I haven't
previously seen many of the errors you report.

"Localizations" and "Localized_Errors" are our own tables.  They contain the
strings for user interfaces other than English; these are taken from a
database that our localizers edit through an interface on the partners web
site.  I'll have a look at those errors.  But my guess is that errors in
these tables will at worst cause parts of the UI to be run in English in
spite of the efforts of our localizers.

The warnings are in dialogs that simply aren't used by our installer, so I
have never given them a second thought.

The errors other than those in the Localizations and Localized_Errors tables
are a bit troubling; I've been staring at them for months, without knowing
just what to do about it.  As you presumably know, DBT doesn't support "per
user" installations.  DBT has some requirements that make installation by
somebody without administrative rights ill-advised and make two "per-user"
installations on the same machine impossible.  So we just gave up the idea
of even offering "per user" installations.  Moreover, though DBT does have
some "per user" features (SWIFT, the BANA Template for Word, and JAWS
scripts), these are installed for each user not through MSI but through code
within DBT itself.  We don't support Advertisement of DBT features at all.
Perhaps it would be possible to try running the MSI file to Advertise
features, but I haven't tried it and don't recommend that you do.

Given those limitations -- that we don't support Advertising, and we support
only Administrator-run per-machine installations -- I haven't tried to nail
down those errors, worrisome as they seem at first.  Do you believe that I
should?

- Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Surato
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:28 AM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Windows Installer Warnings

Hi,

As part of stress testing the latest beta I ran the MSI through a validator.
The results were very surprising. Unlike many other MSI installs that I have
run recently, the errors and warnings were remarkably few in number and
severity. Here is what I found:

Validation started at 4/13/2006 8:54:36 AM ...
Original Msi file - N:\Drivers & Support
Programs\Duxbury\10.6beta5\dbt-1006beta5.msi

ICE03   ERROR   Table: Localized_Errors Column: Error Missing
specifications in _Validation Table (or Old Database)
ICE03   ERROR   Table: Localized_Errors Column: Locale Missing
specifications in _Validation Table (or Old Database)
ICE03   ERROR   Table: Localized_Errors Column: Message Missing
specifications in _Validation Table (or Old Database)
ICE03   ERROR   Table: Localizations Column: Table Missing
specifications in _Validation Table (or Old Database)
ICE03   ERROR   Table: Localizations Column: Identifier1 Missing
specifications in _Validation Table (or Old Database)
ICE03   ERROR   Table: Localizations Column: Identifier2 Missing
specifications in _Validation Table (or Old Database)
ICE03   ERROR   Table: Localizations Column: Locale Missing
specifications in _Validation Table (or Old Database)
ICE03   ERROR   Table: Localizations Column: Text Missing specifications
in _Validation Table (or Old Database)
ICE03   ERROR   Table: Original_Values Column: Key Missing
specifications in _Validation Table (or Old Database)
ICE03   ERROR   Table: Original_Values Column: Value Missing
specifications in _Validation Table (or Old Database)
ICE17   WARNING ListBox: 'IS_SQLSERVER_LIST' for Control: 'lstSQLServer'
of Dialog: 'SQLBrowse' not found in ListBox table.
ICE17   WARNING ComboBox: 'IS_SQLSERVER_SERVER' for Control:
'cboServers' of Dialog: 'SQLLogin' not found in ComboBox table.
ICE39   WARNING 'Admin Image' flag set in SummaryInfo stream. Should be
set only for Admin packages.
ICE43   ERROR   Component dbtw.exe has non-advertised shortcuts. It
should use a registry key under HKCU as its KeyPath, not a file.
ICE43   ERROR   Component brlbld.exe has non-advertised shortcuts. It
should use a registry key under HKCU as its KeyPath, not a file.
ICE57   ERROR   Component 'dbtw.exe' has both per-user and per-machine
data with a per-machine KeyPath.
ICE57   ERROR   Component 'brlbld.exe' has both per-user and per-machine
data with a per-machine KeyPath.

Validation Completed. InstallShield Tuner has detected the following for
dbt-1006beta5.msi - 0 info(s) 3 warning(s) 14 error(s)

Of these messages, the only thing that I find interesting is the "Admin
Image" warning. As I routinely install MSI packages with user privileges,
the first item that I do is create a transform that removes the requirement
for the install to be run as an administrator (remove 1 line from the
LaunchCondition table). For most installations this still installs
correctly. I will attempt this with this beta later today. Is there any
reason that this install needs to be run as an administrator?

Thank you very much for the hard work!

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