[duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents

  • From: "Westmoreland, J. R." <jr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 15:01:25 -0600

To my knowledge it only converts from .chm to .htm or .html documents. 


______________________________
J. R. Westmoreland
PacifiCorp
I/T
Telecomm Data Communications 
Phone: (801) 220-4784

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jack Maartman
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 2:25 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents

Hi:

HH.exe seems to be the utility used to open help files, executed from
windows. I don't think, at least on 98 systems, you can pass it
parameters to convert to other file formats, although the web is full of
utilities that do just that.

Thanks

Jack


----- Original Message -----
From: "Westmoreland, J. R." <jr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:39 PM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents


> There is a standard utility that comes with Windows, at least it is on
> my Windows XP Pro, called "hh".
> You can say something like:
> Hh -decompile <destination-path-for-files> <chm-file>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________
> J. R. Westmoreland
> PacifiCorp
> I/T
> Telecomm Data Communications
> Phone: (801) 220-4784
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:03 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
>
> And fine help files they are. I think it would be good for the on-line
> help to be put in a series of .dxp files to compliment the .chm files.
> Don thinks Windows perhaps even 98 ships with a utility to convert
.chm
> to html files, which could then be saved as text. In my experience,
> having both downloadable and on-line help do rather compliment each
> other.  The problem with the on-line help, and no reflection on
George,
> is acidentally exitting the help program and trying to find my place
> again. I'm thinking this shouldn't be difficult as the end result has
to
> be compiled into .chm files.
>
> Thanks
> Jack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:33 AM
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
>
>
> > Jack,
> >
> > George has been writing the help.  He's done a fabulous job.  At the
> same
> > time, this means that things are unlikely to be documented until
> George
> > understands them (and he does understand this now) and is satisfied
> that
> he
> > won't push for further change (the jury is still out in that
regard).
> >
> > Once George is happy with his understanding and our implementation
> then
> > things like this are sure to be documented.
> >
> > - Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:58 PM
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> >
> > Can we documentthis, in help. It may seem strange, but it makes a
kind
> of
> > sense after you repeat the exercise. My guess is that unless DBT is
> > networked, most of us probably wouldn't have more than two anyway.
> Are
> > printers mutually exclusive, and can you make DBT think a embosser
is
> a
> > printer, or vise vers, based on port settings.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > a
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:50 AM
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> >
> >
> > > Jack,
> > >
> > > If you delete all embossers, but don't create a new one, you
cannot
> get
> > out
> > > of the remaining dialog using OK -- you must use Cancel.  When you
> use
> > > Cancel, DBT won't save any changes, including the removal,
addition,
> or
> > > modification of any embosser configurations.
> > >
> > > George, Ian, and I have been dicussing this issue for some time
now.
> > George
> > > maintains that the way it works will be confusing to people.  Your
> report
> > > seems to bear out his point of view.  But there are problems that
> will
> > arise
> > > however we might modify this behavior, so I've been disinclined to
> make
> a
> > > change.
> > >
> > > - Peter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:33 PM
> > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> > >
> > > I don't know, as it is the only system I have. I'll have to
> re-install
> > > everything, and then try again, or some upt the courage to delete
> the
> > > entries via regedit. I am reluctant to do this, as if the system
> doesn't
> > > boot, I don't have a monitor, let alone requisite help--well who
> needs a
> > > monitor anyway!! Perhaps this is not even a win98 issue. You can
> delete
> > all
> > > embossers, but when you re-initialize DBT they're all still there.
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:21 AM
> > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jack,
> > > >
> > > > I've been hearing about some trouble removing embossers; I
perhaps
> > hadn't
> > > > picked up the detail that this is with Windows 98 specifically.
> > > >
> > > > - Peter
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:22 PM
> > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> > > >
> > > > Will do.
> > > >
> > > > Did I mention it seems impossible to delete embossers under
win98.
> I
> > don't
> > > > know what implications this has, as I haven't one.
> > > >
> > > > Jack
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:41 AM
> > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Jack,
> > > > >
> > > > > Open a file in Word.  For safety, do a File: Save As and save
it
> as
> > > > > something else.  Having done that, go to Tools, Options,
select
> the
> > > > > Security Tab where you can give it a memorable password.
Close
> the
> > > > > file, and re-open it again, to prove to yourself that it does
> actually
> > > > > require a password.
> > > > >
> > > > > You should now be able to try whatever you want with the file.
> > > > >
> > > > > George.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> > > > > Sent: 01 June 2004 05:52
> > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm going to have to bone up on Ms-Word and Swift before I can
> do
> this
> > > > > adequately. With regard to the help files, is there anything
in
> > > > > particular, you want me to look for?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jack
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 8:08 AM
> > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ian,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is getting quite intriguing.  Any other Beta testers
> tried
> this
> > > > > > yet?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I try to open a password protected Word 2003 document in
> any of
> > my
> > > > > > three flavours of DBT, I get a 714 error.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, if I open the document in Word, and then use the
> current
> > > > > > version of SWIFT (The one which maintains multiple .mws
files)
> it
> > > > > comes
> > > > > > into DBT OK, which is, to a large extent, what I would
expect,
> or
> at
> > > > > > least hope for.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why YOU have the problem is a mystery.  (And bear in mind I
> have
> the
> > > > > > advantage of an XP Home and Pro system, side by side here.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I guess we might also have to look at (but after 10.5
> please!)
> > is
> > > > > > The Information Rights Management Service.  That should give
> > > > > programmers
> > > > > > a mild migraine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All the best,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > George.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > On Behalf Of Ian Robinson
> > > > > > Sent: 31 May 2004 14:59
> > > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi George,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I only get "Error 714" if the document is sent to DBT via
> SWIFT.
> > When
> > > > > > using DBTs File Open dialogue, the application hangs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW: "Error 714" is a DBT message.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 1:18 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Ian,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have just tried it here with XP Professional and Home,
and
> > Office
> > > > > > > 2003.  I've also used DBT 10.4, current Beta, and the
> untested
> > > > > > autobuild
> > > > > > > of 28th May, and in all cases I get the same result.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > After displaying DBT's normal import dialog, where it
> correctly
> > > > > > > identifies File Type, I get "Error Message 714" pop up,
but
> DBT
> > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > hang or such like.    Nothing appears in the error logs.
> Trawled
> > > > > the
> > > > > > MS
> > > > > > > KB to no avail, and even googled with no success, so I
hope
> it's
> a
> > > > > DBT
> > > > > > > error message, which can be rephrased to be something more
> > > > > meaningful.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not surprised you didn't find the word "password" in
> Help.
> > Not
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > has the indexing not been completed yet, but the word
> doesn't
> > exist
> > > > > > > anywhere in the text.  Got any ideas for a topic that
should
> > include
> > > > > > > "password"?  (Smile)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > George.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ian Robinson
> > > > > > > Sent: 31 May 2004 11:47
> > > > > > > To: List DBTBeta
> > > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Password Protected Documents
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This isn't strictly a beta issue as I can replicate it
with
> 10.4.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Trying to open a password protected Word document causes
DBT
> to
> > > > > hang.
> > > > > > > The title bar is visible to JAWS, but the application is
not
> > > > > > responding.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Trying to close DBT caused Windows XP to display the "This
> program
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > not responding" dialogue.  Selecting "End now", caused a
lot
> of
> > hard
> > > > > > > disc activity and a slow down of the whole system, but a
DBT
> > window
> > > > > > > still remained.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the end, I had to reboot the system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, I searched DBT's Help for "password", and got no
> results.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ian
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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