George and I got into this discussion last week. Here were my thoughts about this dialog: Mark from Word document is a poor choice of words: it means to respect the page numbers you have used in Word, typically found in the footer. Using this option means the file goes through DBTs Word macro. When the file opens in DBT you get the page numbers inserted as [lea]#. Using Preserve hard page breaks with this option is redundant (but not going to hurt anything), because if you have a hard page break, you usually have a new print page number, although I suppose there could be issues if you discontinue page numbering for some reason, and then pick them up again a few pages later. Treat hard page breaks as print page breaks only works if Preserve hard page breaks is also checked. In fact, the wording isn't accurate at all ... as hard page breaks = a new BRAILLE page (that is, [pg]) in DBT ... no print page numbers are involved. It seems strange that choosing this option wouldn't automatically set Preserve hard page breaks, because I can't find any other way to use it if it isn't also checked. Use publishers' <ipp no=#> reference page breaks can be used without or without Preserve hard page breaks. It converts the <ipp no=#> tag to [lea]#. If someone isn't doing any formatting in Word, there probably wouldn't be hard page breaks in the file, but sometimes publishers do use them (though not necessarily meaningful breaks that are useful for us). If someone is formatting in Word before opening the file in DBT, Preserve hard page breaks can be useful for such things as starting certain types of headings on a new braille page, making sure a table starts at the beginning of a new braille page, etc. I think we could use some rewording for these options, to make the meaning more apparent. Susan Peter Sullivan wrote on 3/1/2005, 12:43 PM: > Joanie, > > Thanks. I'll have a look. > > - Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:40 PM > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Marking page breaks > > Aha. That makes sense, thanks Peter. Unless I'm missing something > still, I > think I have found a bug since "Treat hard page breaks as print page > breaks" > seems to produce the same results as "ignore." Steps to reproduce: > > 1. In the Word Importer, be sure Preserve hard page breaks is checked > and > select "treat hard page breaks as print page breaks" > 2. Import a document that has both hard and soft page breaks using the > textbook format 3. Note that braille page numbers are at the bottom as > expected, but there is a complete absence of reference page numbers. > > If I repeat those steps using the equivalent options in SP1 as > described by > Peter (i.e. checking both Mark Print Page Breaks and Document is > scanned), > reference numbers appear as expected. > > Take care. > Joanie > > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Peter Sullivan > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:20 PM > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Marking page breaks > > Joanie, > > "Treat hard page breaks as print page breaks" also implies "*Don't* treat > soft page breaks as hard page breaks". DBT will insert a page break > marking > only where there is a hard page break. This is often useful when dealing > with files that have been scanned and converted by the OCR software > into MS > Word format. Selecting this option is exactly the same as checking both > "Mark Print Page Breaks" and "Document is Scanned" in earlier DBT > versions. > > The documentation is indeed still being updated. For this reason, if > for no > other, I do expect at least one more beta build before we release. > > - Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 12:48 PM > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Marking page breaks > > Hi All. I'm looking at the Word Importer dialog box and noticed the > change > in the marking of print page breaks. I'm puzzled by the option to "treat > hard page breaks as print page breaks." At the risk of sounding > dense, what > exactly does that mean? In my testing thus far, selecting Ignore is the > equivalent of not checking what used to be the Mark Print Page Breaks > checkbox. Selecting Mark from Word Document is the equivalent of > checking > that checkbox. When I select Treat Hard Page Breaks as Print Page > Breaks, > Duxbury seems to behave as if I chose Ignore. I looked in the > documentation, and that is labeled as a section that needs to be written. > > Any clarification would be appreciated. Take care. > Joanie > > > * * * > * This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. > * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with > * unsubscribe > * as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also > * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription > * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive > * is also located there. > * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com > * * * > > * * * > * This message is via list duxhelp at freelists.org. > * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with > * unsubscribe > * as the subject to <duxhelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. 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