[duxhelp] Re: Line breaks in word files

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:11:26 -0400

Micheal,

I agree that such a thing would be helpful.  We'd need of course to make the
colors configurable.  And it will also be helpful to allow some other visual
distinction, so that a colorblind person can still use the feature.
- Peter 

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From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:42 AM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Line breaks in word files

I also think that the current behavior for the codes is the correct way of
looking at them. Highlighting unrecognized codes is something that I did not
think about. This is a very good suggestion. Perhaps you could use several
different colors for highlighting (green for line codes, blue for formatting
codes, yellow for remarks, red for unrecognized, etc.). This is similar to
what web browsers are required to do, and I think that it is a very good
design.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:27 AM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Line breaks in word files
> 
> Michael,
> 
> You got [sk1][<] because you put the embedded code within a paragraph 
> by itself.
> 
> The behavior of unrecognized codes is, I think, a good one.  
> George's suggestion to allow finding or highlighting unrecognized 
> codes is also useful, but I wouldn't want to see us change the way 
> they are treated.
> 
> - Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:19 AM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Line breaks in word files
> 
> I tried the [[*sk1*]], but the result in DBT was [sk1][<]. As such, 
> the preserve skipped lines option seems to be the best option.
> 
> For the input validation, remember that "regular expressions" 
> is your friend. Left open for debate is what to do if the code is 
> invalid. Is it simply removed silently, does it complain loudly, does 
> it burn the document in effigy, or does it do something else? As this 
> is a very large topic, I would suggest that this be thought out very 
> carefully, and placed into consideration at some point in the future. 
> You also need to take carefully into consideration what the intended 
> effect is. What happens if you add a new code in a future version?
> Does the old version choke on the new code?
> Just some thoughts to ponder about this.
> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell
> > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:08 AM
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Line breaks in word files
> > 
> > Hi Michael,
> > 
> > You have number of possible line break solutions here.  I'll detail 
> > two.
> > 
> > 1)  Put the line breaks in Word, but before you import the
> file, go to
> > DBT's Global, Word Importer dialog and check "Preserve
> skipped lines".
> > Of course this will affect ALL imported Word documents.
> > 
> > Alternatively,
> > 
> > 2)  Use the code [[*sk1*]]  (Skip # number of lines)
> > 
> > As regards [[*odd*]] Codes, don't worry.  One of the
> > (currently) nice things about this feature is that it
> indeed does NOT
> > affect embossing and such like.
> > 
> > That said, in a future incarnation of DBT, I would very
> much like to
> > see a Code/Style parser/validator.  But as you can see, I'm 
> > whispering, otherwise Peter will be after me with a big stick!
> > (Smile)
> > 
> > George.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Surato
> > Sent: 21 April 2006 13:27
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Line breaks in word files
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > We are trying to create a document that has some blank lines in it. 
> > Our final product should look like:
> > 
> > Line 1
> > 
> > Line 2
> > 
> > If we leave a blank line in the word file, this is removed
> when opened
> > in DBT. If we imbed a line break in the word file like so:
> > 
> > Line 1
> > [[*<*]]
> > Line 2
> > 
> > We get two blank lines instead of one (after removing the para. 
> > style).
> > Is there a way to get a single blank line in the final product?
> > 
> > On a second front, while I was embedding codes into the
> word file, I
> > attempted to import an error using this ability. By
> > using:
> > 
> > Line1
> > [[*breakme*]]
> > Line2
> > 
> > I was able import the invalid code into DBT. However, this did not 
> > affect embossing at all (this is good!). I see that in the
> manual you
> > mention the [idle] code, is it possible to insert any code,
> and have
> > anything not recognized be ignored?
> > 
> > Thank you very much!
> > 
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