[duxhelp] Re: Fw: fossils:

  • From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:58:02 -0000

Jack,

This is going off topic, but I think it is important to know
where screen access may be going.

Go to
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws71
0fea.asp

Go to the very end of this page, where you will find the
following:-

Download JAWS 7.10
You must have Internet License Manager (ILM) authorization
for JAWS 7.0 to run version 7.10 (the ILM version can also
use a dongle for authorization). If your version of JAWS
still uses 3.5-inch disk authorization, contact Freedom
Scientific Sales for details on switching to ILM
authorization. This public beta version of JAWS 7.10 does
not support Windows Vista, ME, 98, 95, or NT 4.0.

George.


-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack
Maartman
Sent: 20 March 2006 21:57
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Fw: fossils:

I think it supports win98, or at least the Demo does, unless
I've got 7.0. I
don't use JFW, unless someone asks me something about it.

Jack


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:37 PM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Fw: fossils:


> And it is interesting to note that JAWS 7.1 no longer
> supports Windows 98, or even Windows Millennium!
>
> They are history.
>
> George.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter
> Sullivan
> Sent: 20 March 2006 21:16
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Fw: fossils:
>
> Jack,
>
> We do plan to work on HTML/XML importing issues.  What we
> don't cover during
> this beta we'll get to in time.
>
> However, we no longer will be updating (or even selling)
or
> MS-DOS
> translator.  It is more than enough work to maintain
> compatibility with
> Windows 98.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:29 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Fw: fossils:
>
> I sent this to to David on Friday instead of the list.
Let
> me know, if as I
> imagine, modifications to translation tables are not on
our
> agenda.  If I
> can import all the new translation and format/hyphenation
> tables into the
> build for dos, so much the better  The dos version is a
good
> adjunct to
> nfbtrans, especially for languages other than English,
where
> 286/386 or even
> xt machines are being used.  Original follows.
>
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack Maartman <mailto:jmaartman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: David Holladay <mailto:david@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 8:06 PM
> Subject: fossils:
>
> Hi all, especially Peter, and Joe should he monitor once
and
> a while:
>
> Joe was good enough to give me a version of DBT for
MS-dos,
> as part of my
> research license.
>
> Nobody seems to pay attention to dos anymore, although, I
> suspect in the
> developing world it might be used a bit more than where
> computer power is
> for the taking.
>
> DBT purports to work transparently across platforms.  I,
as
> one who still
> loves and uses ms-dos, would like to use the dos version
> whenever possible,
> to do any trouble-shooting, before running the final in
> windows.
>
> I am using a rapidly degrading version of win 98.  My ISP
> sagely suggested
> to me, that although I would probably never like windows,
I
> would eventually
> get used to it. I live in a very isolated rural community,
> running
> Window-Eyes, which has never been as fully supported as
JFW,
> in spite of the
> good offices of Don Breda.  I suspect this is largely due
to
> GWMicro's
> indifference.  I am self-taught in windows, which means
that
> I am missing
> half the jargon. I learned enough jaws to tutor Dr.
Abraham
> Nemeth in some
> of the basics, and although JFW's mouse simulation does
not
> appear to be as
> intuitive as Wineyes' it still seems to work.
>
> As a DBT beta-tester , I am chiefly interested in
> portability
> cross-platform, and above all to determine DBT's
limitations
> when importing
> .html and .xml files.  There are a number of codes that
> appear simply to be
> not supported, even though .dbt allows one to save in
.sgml.
> I am very
> fortunate in having a shell account on a linux system, and
> I'd find an older
> build for linux useful.  Another issue is how easily one
can
> tweak languages
> with translation tables, E.G. Arabic, Hebrew, and those
> based on cyrrilic
> scripts into working, without having to use MS-Word
patches.
> The version of
> word I have is a pirate installed from a corrupt CD, and
it
> barely performs.
>
> Most of my multilingual material comes directly from .html
> files found on
> the web. If these are written in UTF-8 DBT seems to do a
> reasonable import,
> although often full of asterisks from any translation
table
> that doesn't
> understand the symbols be they .html entity references, or
> unrecognized
> UTF-8 characters.  It will, however not recognize a plain
> text file in UTF-8
> at all.
>
> These matters may seem trivial or irrelevant at a glance.
> One should,
> however, bare in mind that the web is the richest source
of
> information for
> a braille reader, and I know from having a gross hearing
> loss that immediate
> translation of such material to braille especially to be
> read using a
> braille notetaker is almost simultaneous to real
> accessibility.  What I find
> useful with Dos or linux systems is that you are put
> unceremoniously back at
> a prompt, if things don't work as they should.
>
> Cheers
>
> zJack
>
>
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