[duxhelp] Re: Frenh translation

  • From: "Jack Maartman" <jmaartman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:05:51 -0800

Thanks for the data, Peter.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 1:29 PM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Frenh translation


> Jack,
>
> The Word importer won't import plain ASCII.  But Word files do sometimes
> have skipped lines.  When these skipped lines are in fact blank
paragraphs,
> DBT will normally ignore them on import.  The option to which George
refers
> tells DBT that blank paragraphs were used to create skipped lines that
> should be preserved on the import and translation.
>
> - Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:11 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Frenh translation
>
> I think you got it George. Will the word importer import plain ascii. I
> would have thought not.
>
> Jack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 5:13 AM
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Frenh translation
>
>
> > Peter, Jack,
> >
> > Could it be simply that the importer (Word perhaps?) has the
> > "Preserve skipped lines" option checked?
> >
> > George.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter
> > Sullivan
> > Sent: 23 March 2006 23:56
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Frenh translation
> >
> > Jack,
> >
> > I don't know of a style per-se that would typically cause
> > paragraphs to be separated by a blank line in a braille
> > document.  I'd be able to spot the culprit in a jiffy with a
> > sample file.  Bear in mind that, if there is a style
> > involved, it may well not be a style that we've defined.
> > DBT does give you rope with which to hang yourself when you
> > define your own styles.
> > (Or it could be one of our styles that's not coming to mind
> > now.)
> >
> > What's more, it might not be a style issue at all.  The
> > behavior of the [p] code, regardless of whether [p] is
> > entered directly into the document or is embedded in a style
> > definition, is controlled by parameters in a Format Control
> > Table (.fct file).  For your work, I'd guess that amerpr.fct
> > is used when your document is in print and amerpb.fct is
> > used when it is in braille.
> > You'll be able to tell for certain by finding the entry in
> > weebee.wbd that corresponds to the language you've chosen.
> > Editing of either weebee.wbd or an .fct file can cause the
> > formatting at paragraph breaks to change.
> >
> > Weebee.wbd and all .fct files are editable text files.  We
> > just don't recommend editing them.
> >
> > - Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack
> > Maartman
> > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 6:38 PM
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Frenh translation
> >
> > Very naive question.  In a dxb or brf file, paragraphs are
> > often separated by two carriage returns, with an intervening
> > space. What style is this, and how can I turn it off, so
> > there is only one carriage return with the convensional two
> > spaces, to denote a new paragraph. In many instances, I
> > would justas soon have the translator produce a document
> > with no blank lines.  I often edit a file on a braille lite
> > m40 and add blank lines, where needed.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jack Maartman" <jmaartman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:07 PM
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Frenh translation
> >
> >
> > > I'm ennormously relieved.
> > >
> > > I translated the first volume of "Les Miserables", which
> > loosely
> > translated
> > > into English, means either "The Wretched," or
> > perhaps--although
> > > Christian might not concur, "The Damned." I used basic
> > French template
> > > which has translation table set to French Unified. I
> > haven't
> > > internalized the new rules yet. Any of the Francophones on
> > this list
> > > can critique where necessary.  The French translates with
> > antoine
> > > numbers. Embossing at this stage I can do from 10.5.
> > >
> > > As I maybe the only one ragging y'all about the crash when
> > printing to
> > file.
> > > I have no more to say, and wish you luck.
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:10 PM
> > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Frenh translation
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jack,
> > > >
> > > > Crashes while embossing to file have indeed not yet been
> > addressed.
> > > >
> > > > - Peter
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:24 PM
> > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Frenh translation
> > > >
> > > > Embossing to file still crashes with the new beta.
> > Please tell me
> > > > this
> > is
> > > an
> > > > issue that ain't fixed yet.  I'll keep experimenting.
> > > >
> > > > Jack
> > > >
> > > >
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