[duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:52:11 -0400

Except that we still don't have the magic list finalized.  Again, I'm
working on other tasks; so I'll likely ignore messages on this thread with
lists of extensions.  But I'll be back to "harvest" them later.

- Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 10:52 AM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types

PERFECT!  Problem solved! 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> Sent: 14 June 2004 15:49
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types
> 
> George,
> 
> I'm not joking at all.  This, I believe, is exactly what Ian suggested 
> to start the thread.  Only his list is even more extensive.
> 
> The good news is that there wouldn't be any need to show the 
> extensions as part of the user interface.  The description "Importable 
> Files" would be enough.
> 
> - Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 6:31 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types
> 
> Peter,
> 
> You are joking of course - aren't you? 
> 
> George.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> > Sent: 11 June 2004 18:39
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types
> > 
> > George,
> > 
> > Thanks for the concrete suggestion.  Should there also be
> an "DBT and
> > Importable Files (*.dxb; *.dxp; *.brf; *.bff; *.doc; *.wp; *.wpd; 
> > *.wp5; *.wp6; *.txt; *.---)" setting?  I believe that this
> is more in
> > line with what Ian was originally suggesting.
> > 
> > - Peter
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 1:04 PM
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types
> > 
> > How about......?
> > 
> > DBT braille files (*.dxb; *.brf; *.bff) DBT print files
> (*.dxp) Word
> > Documents (*.doc) WordPerfect Files (*.wp; *.wpd; *.wp5;
> *.wp6) Text
> > Files
> > (*.txt) My files
> > (*.---)  Where --- comes from a user defined list All Files (*.*)
> > 
> > George.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> > > Sent: 11 June 2004 16:58
> > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types
> > > 
> > > Jan & Lissa,
> > > 
> > > I'm glad to see some of the trancriber community weighing
> > in on this
> > > one.
> > > 
> > > Lissa isn't the only one that uses non-standard extensions.  
> > > They are in common use in France to distinguish between
> > braille files
> > > encoded as North American ASCII equivalents (.brf files)
> > and braille
> > > files encoded with a French system (.bff files, as I recall).
> > > 
> > > Lissa and I had come to an agreement some time ago that her 
> > > non-standard extensions could be part of the "DBT can open
> > these" list
> > > of extensions, assuming that she doesn't mind NBP trade-secret 
> > > extension lists becoming public knowledge.
> > > 
> > > Or what we might aim to do is to allow a local option to
> define the
> > > extension list in an external file.  This, in combination with 
> > > George's suggestion to make the "Show files of type" list
> > stick to its
> > > last-selected value, could make everybody happy.
> > > 
> > > But I'd still need to know what is the most agreeable
> > general list of
> > > "File extensions that DBT can open".  Perhaps I should take first 
> > > crack at definining it.  (It's just a bit busy today.)
> > > 
> > > - Peter
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JAN CARROLL
> > > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:44 AM
> > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types
> > > 
> > > Why would you want to use nonstandard file extensions.  That 
> > > is scarey.   I
> > > also want the file extensions to be associated with its
> > program that
> > > created it.
> > > 
> > > Not sure if I am understanding this thread of extensions
> > but I want to
> > > see DXP in print,  DXB in braille and I want to be able to
> > choose in a
> > > drop box
> > > All Files if i want.   I believe 10.4 is already doing this. 
> > > 
> > > >>> lissa@xxxxxxx 6/11/2004 11:17:30 AM >>>
> > > No! Some of us use non-standard extensions and would hate
> > to see them
> > > disappear from the File Open list.
> > > 
> > > Lissa
> > > 
> > > Peter Sullivan wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Jack,
> > > >
> > > >The point I'm trying to get across on this thread is that
> > it's very
> > > >easy to fix, but hard to define.
> > > >
> > > >At the same time, remembering the "last file extension" 
> filter, as
> > > >George suggested, would mitigate the need to be exacting in the 
> > > >definition, because users for whom the definition is overly
> > > restrictive
> > > could select "all files"
> > > >and rest assured that it would stay that way.
> > > >
> > > >- Peter
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > >[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> > > >Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:12 AM
> > > >To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types
> > > >
> > > >Definitely.  Is this the same kind of behaviour we see in
> > > giants, like
> > > >MSWord or WordPerfect.  Would this be easy to fix, without
> > rewriting
> > > >the entire source code.
> > > >
> > > >Regars to all
> > > >
> > > >Jack
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Ian Robinson" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: "List DBTBeta" <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:54 AM
> > > >Subject: [duxhelp] File Open, file types
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >>Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >>The File Open dialogue currently shows all files.  Does
> > anyone else
> > > >>agree that it would be better if it only showed those file
> > > types that
> > > >>can be opened by DBT?
> > > >>
> > > >>In the event that a user does try to open, for example, a
> > > .xls file,
> > > >>no error message is displayed.  The file just fails to open.
> > > >>
> > > >>Cheers.
> > > >>
> > > >>Ian
> > > >>
> > > >>
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