[duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:50:53 -0400

Ian,

Your suggestions are also good.  As you might imagine, I'll be re-examining
this thread in time to gather an accumulated list of extensions.

I can verify that All Files (*.*) is item 4 of 4.  Without JAWS running,
keyboard control can select another item by pushing Down Arrow then Up
Arrow.  I don't know what you've tried for key commands, or whether any
other JAWS user can verify that the dialog gets stuck on item 4 of 4 when
JAWS is running.

- Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ian Robinson
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 1:48 PM
To: List DBTBeta
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types

Hi George,

What about:
*.sgm
*.htm
*.html
*.mht
*.mhtml
*.xml
*.prf
*.asc
*.ans

What's rather curious is that, at the moment, JAWS announces that "All Files
*.*" is the 4th item of 4, yet it is not possible to change the setting.

Cheers.

Ian

----- Original Message -----
From: <duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 6:04 PM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types


> How about......?
>
> DBT braille files (*.dxb; *.brf; *.bff)
> DBT print files (*.dxp)
> Word Documents (*.doc)
> WordPerfect Files (*.wp; *.wpd; *.wp5; *.wp6)
> Text Files (*.txt)
> My files (*.---)  Where --- comes from a user defined list
> All Files (*.*)
>
> George.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> > Sent: 11 June 2004 16:58
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types
> >
> > Jan & Lissa,
> >
> > I'm glad to see some of the trancriber community weighing in
> > on this one.
> >
> > Lissa isn't the only one that uses non-standard extensions.
> > They are in common use in France to distinguish between
> > braille files encoded as North American ASCII equivalents
> > (.brf files) and braille files encoded with a French system
> > (.bff files, as I recall).
> >
> > Lissa and I had come to an agreement some time ago that her
> > non-standard extensions could be part of the "DBT can open
> > these" list of extensions, assuming that she doesn't mind NBP
> > trade-secret extension lists becoming public knowledge.
> >
> > Or what we might aim to do is to allow a local option to
> > define the extension list in an external file.  This, in
> > combination with George's suggestion to make the "Show files
> > of type" list stick to its last-selected value, could make
> > everybody happy.
> >
> > But I'd still need to know what is the most agreeable general
> > list of "File extensions that DBT can open".  Perhaps I
> > should take first crack at definining it.  (It's just a bit
> > busy today.)
> >
> > - Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JAN CARROLL
> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:44 AM
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types
> >
> > Why would you want to use nonstandard file extensions.  That
> > is scarey.   I
> > also want the file extensions to be associated with its
> > program that created it.
> >
> > Not sure if I am understanding this thread of extensions but
> > I want to see DXP in print,  DXB in braille and I want to be
> > able to choose in a drop box
> > All Files if i want.   I believe 10.4 is already doing this.
> >
> > >>> lissa@xxxxxxx 6/11/2004 11:17:30 AM >>>
> > No! Some of us use non-standard extensions and would hate to
> > see them disappear from the File Open list.
> >
> > Lissa
> >
> > Peter Sullivan wrote:
> >
> > >Jack,
> > >
> > >The point I'm trying to get across on this thread is that it's very
> > >easy to fix, but hard to define.
> > >
> > >At the same time, remembering the "last file extension" filter, as
> > >George suggested, would mitigate the need to be exacting in the
> > >definition, because users for whom the definition is overly
> > restrictive
> > could select "all files"
> > >and rest assured that it would stay that way.
> > >
> > >- Peter
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> > >Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:12 AM
> > >To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [duxhelp] Re: File Open, file types
> > >
> > >Definitely.  Is this the same kind of behaviour we see in
> > giants, like
> > >MSWord or WordPerfect.  Would this be easy to fix, without rewriting
> > >the entire source code.
> > >
> > >Regars to all
> > >
> > >Jack
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Ian Robinson" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: "List DBTBeta" <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:54 AM
> > >Subject: [duxhelp] File Open, file types
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>The File Open dialogue currently shows all files.  Does anyone else
> > >>agree that it would be better if it only showed those file
> > types that
> > >>can be opened by DBT?
> > >>
> > >>In the event that a user does try to open, for example, a
> > .xls file,
> > >>no error message is displayed.  The file just fails to open.
> > >>
> > >>Cheers.
> > >>
> > >>Ian
> > >>
> > >>
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