[duxhelp] Re: Embosser Graphics testing

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  • Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 09:51:51 -0400

What would be required to test this functionality? As this is a very
important function, we would be willing to test this as much as
possible. While I understand that this will, most likely, not make it
into this release we would be willing to test anything you have for the
next release.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:39 AM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser Graphics testing
> 
> David,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.  We need to hear these things sometimes.
> 
> I don't think that we're going to be able to do this for DBT 
> 10.6.  But I do plan to put DBT into something nearly like a 
> "continuous" beta once DBT 10.6 is shipping.  That is, the 
> plan is to add more modest improvements and release more 
> frequently than what has been done for this round.  Among the 
> improvements, we could presumably offer better support for 
> Tiger embossers.
> 
> I just hesitate to do it now, because improved support, while 
> reasonably simple to code, will require either an intense 
> testing effort or a longer time than we now have, if the 
> testing is to done without a bullwhip.
> 
> - Peter 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Spybey
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:36 AM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser Graphics testing
> 
> Peter
> 
> As a Mathematics teacher I use Duxbury frequently. We do have 
> a Tiger but my use of it is limited and I have not found it 
> as easy to use. In particular I have found it difficult to 
> create of a multiple paged document with diagrams in it. I 
> would expect to find this task easier if the Tiger was 
> directly supported within DBT. So I, for one, would be very 
> pleased to see graphics supported within DBT.
> 
> David Spybey
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> Sent: 03 May 2006 13:40
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser Graphics testing
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Tigers, and the drivers that come with them, are very good at 
> producing graphics.
> 
> But DBT doesn't directly support that.
> 
> The problem for us has simply been lack of consumer demand.  
> There's nothing about the Tiger that would prevent us 
> supporting graphics within DBT, but we haven't heard much call for it.
> 
> - Peter 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Michael Surato
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:35 AM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser Graphics testing
> 
> Are you saying that the Tiger driver will not support 
> graphics, or that the implementation of graphics is 
> incompatible with the driver for the Tiger?
> The main reason we purchased a Tiger embosser was to produce graphics.
> If we
> cannot produce graphics inline with text this will severely 
> limit its usefulness.
> 
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> |            Michael Surato                 |
> |      Resource Center for Persons          |
> |           with Disabilities               |
> |      Michigan State University            |
> |            120 Bessey Hall                |
> |        East Lansing, MI 48824             |
> | Voice: (517) 353-9643 Fax: (517) 432-3191 |
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>    
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Holladay
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 6:10 PM
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser Graphics testing
> > 
> > The driver for the Tiger does not support graphics.
> > This is something we knew.
> > 
> > We need to make a way for the user to know.
> > 
> > We need a way to gracefully end the embossing job without error.
> > 
> > Good catch.
> > 
> > -- David Holladay
> > 
> > At 04:01 PM 5/2/2006, you wrote:
> > >Recently we attempted this graphic on a Tiger Pro embosser
> > and received
> > >gibberish from the embosser. This worked fine with our
> > Juliet Classic
> > >embossers.
> > >
> > >We have also found a location where an assert fails.
> > >Steps to reproduce:
> > >1. set up the paper size to a larger size then what is 
> setup in the 
> > >driver.
> > >2. say OK to the dialog complaining about not finding tiger.ini 3. 
> > >press cancel on the dialog complaining about the driver paper size
> > >
> > >Error message:
> > >Embossing failed due to an error at line 1545 of file
> > dxemb_job.c: The
> > >data area passed to a system call is too small. [122/0x0000007a]
> > >
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> > >|            Michael Surato                 |
> > >|      Resource Center for Persons          |
> > >|           with Disabilities               |
> > >|      Michigan State University            |
> > >|            120 Bessey Hall                |
> > >|        East Lansing, MI 48824             |
> > >| Voice: (517) 353-9643 Fax: (517) 432-3191 |
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> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> David Holladay
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:10 PM
> > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Embosser Graphics testing
> > > >
> > > > For past versions of DBT, we have occasionally been hit with 
> > > > problems with graphics.
> > > >
> > > > We have made so many changes to the embossing machinery,
> > it a quite
> > > > possible that some aspect of graphics may have a problem.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, many models of embossers do not support graphics.
> > > > But those that do, we want to properly support.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Attached is a graphics file.
> > > >
> > > > To import into DBT, go to the layout menu, then picture,
> > add, then
> > > > select this file.
> > > >
> > > > It is an image of Bart Simpson, star of the cartoon.
> > > >
> > > > Please give it a try.
> > > >
> > > > -- David Holladay
> > > >
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