[duxhelp] Re: ELEKUL 55

  • From: "Jack Maartman" <jmaartman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:38:48 -0700

Hi Philip:

With my interest in braille as it is used internationally, and the ability
to read Abrege, which is in my view, the finest system of contracted
braille, ever devised, I am troubled by the sweeping changes necessary in
European braille to make it more accessible.  I have formed a close e-mail
relationship with Christian Coudert, of Le Commission d'evolution du braille
Francais, and am aware that the commission wishes to arrive at a simplified
braille for all Francophone countries.  This I know is no easy task, and in
fact, I wonder whether French speaking countries shouldn't whole-heartedly
adopt Integrale.  Christian is a wonderful teacher.  I think I know a lot
about braille, but I have the pleasure of finding out what I don't know.

If this is going to the list, you should probably write directly to

jmaartman@xxxxxxxxxxx, as I am very interested in corresponding with people
from European countries and other users of non-English Braille.

Dutch, Italian and Portuguese are languages that interest me greatly since
their braille has been simplified.  With a background in linguistics, I
would love to gain access to the heavier contracted grades of braille, used
in these countries.

German presents a challenge for me, as I don't know what kind of braille is
now used there. I speak neither German nor Dutch, so the meagre documents I
have found on line, of course, I cannot read.

Thank you ever so much for answering my queries.

very Cordially

Jack Maartman
jmaartman@xxxxxxxxxxx


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "vandenbrande" <vandenbrande@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:55 AM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: ELEKUL 55


> Hi Jack,
>
> Belgium Knows 3 Communities: French, Dutch and German (very small). I am
> French-speaking. The Belgian Dutch-speaking work in this moment with the
> Dutchmen for standardize their Braille. The Belgian French-speaking use
> almost all the Braille code  of France. And French of France, Switzerland,
> Canada, Belgium and Africa also work for a standardization of the French
> Braille.
>
>
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jack Maartman" <jmaartman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 10:35 PM
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: ELEKUL 55
>
>
> > Hi Philip:
> >
> > A bit off topic here, but I am wondering if your first language is
Flemish
> > or French.  I am assuming that the same rules for Dutch braille hold
true
> in
> > Belgium as in the Netherlands.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "vandenbrande" <vandenbrande@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:18 AM
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: ELEKUL 55
> >
> >
> > > Hi George,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm very happy for you and the U.K. for successfully printing with
> ELEKUL
> > > 55.
> > >
> > > I'm come back in office 23.08.2004. I Tell you what's happening in my
> > case.
> > > Have a good time, you and all users.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Philippe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 4:59 PM
> > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: ELEKUL 55
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Phillipe,
> > >
> > > I'm delighted to tell you that late today one of
> > > the major braille producers in the UK has
> > > succeeded in getting one of their Interpoint 55
> > > embossers working directly off a PC running
> > > Windows 2000, and another PC with Windows XP.  At
> > > this time, it is connected Serial, and uses the
> > > Generic/text Only Windows printer driver.
> > >
> > > They have embossed an entire volume, and it
> > > appears to be embossing as expected.
> > >
> > > Communicating with the Interpoint 55 has also been
> > > a major worry to be, as we have at least 8, that I
> > > know of, here in the U.K.
> > >
> > > So raise a glass to the guys in Westford,
> > > Massachusetts, over dinner tonight, and raise
> > > another towards the U.K. for the persistence of
> > > the user.
> > >
> > > Enjoy the test of your holiday.
> > >
> > > George Bell.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > > Of Peter Sullivan
> > > > Sent: 12 August 2004 19:53
> > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: ELEKUL 55
> > > >
> > > > Hello Phillipe,
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy yourself!
> > > >
> > > > We are confident that, as of now, if any issues
> > > remain with
> > > > DBT's support for the Interpoint 55, we will be
> > > able to fix
> > > > them without rebuilding DBT itself.
> > > >
> > > > We will almost certainly have released DBT 10.5
> > > by the time
> > > > you return from holiday.  If you return to find
> > > that things
> > > > still aren't working to your satisfaction, we
> > > should be able
> > > > to fix it with just a few e-mails back and
> > > forth.  Your
> > > > insistence that we look at the build from last
> > > July provided
> > > > a valuable clue.  The code is much different
> > > now, but we
> > > > could still see what had been customized in the
> > > July 2003
> > > > build in order to communicate properly with the
> > > Interpoint 55.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > > Of vandenbrande
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 2:22 PM
> > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: ELEKUL 55
> > > >
> > > > Hello Peter,
> > > >
> > > > I'm just on holliday. I'm come back 2004-09-23:
> > > Phil's, The Return!
> > > > Thanks for your's attentions.
> > > >
> > > > Philippe
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 4:34 PM
> > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: ELEKUL 55
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Phillipe,
> > > > >
> > > > > In fact we've made more progress than I
> > > expected.  A build
> > > > that I hope
> > > > > we will post today should fix both formatting
> > > and communications
> > > > > issues with the ELEKUL Interpoint 55.  We are
> > > eager to have another
> > > > > try at getting
> > > > this
> > > > > right.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Peter
> > > > >
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