Hi Christian, Sounds to me rather similar to translating into Shakespeare's language. I don't understand that either! (Smile) (Actually, I'm not sure I understand my own words sometimes!) George. > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christian Coudert > Sent: 02 June 2004 17:35 > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Documentation > > Hello George and all: > > Thanks for this heavy and extremely useful work! > > We in France are eager to retrieve your document for a > translation into Moliere's language! > > So, good luck! > > Christian > ----- Message d'origine ----- > De : "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> À : > <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Envoyé : mardi 1 juin 2004 21:21 > Objet : [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > Hi Jack, > > Trust me. Hard copy documentation of one kind or another is > extremely high on my own priority list. However, I do have > to write Help based on the final code. And at the present > moment, some areas are a rather moveable feast, and so the > actual completion Help is, as always in any software > development project, the last task to be done. > > And to explain a little further for everyone's benefit. > > The Help files as they stand, are in fact a compilation of > over 600 individual HTML files, which are called "Topics". > When you select "Emboss" from within Help, it is in fact > invoking DBT's HTML importer, and outputting via your > selected default Template and Embosser. > > The software we use to create the Help files is very > specialist. One of its capabilities is to produce printed > documentation as Word files, which in turn are a good basis > for producing a printed manual. Word > 2003 of course now provides a facility to save these files in > XML, and for those who are into XML (and may groan at Word's > version) this is a major step forward. > > The bottom line is that it will technically now be possible > to produce documentation is various formats, though I have to > say that given the current targets, this may not be completed > on release. > > But we will do our very, very best. > > George. > > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Jack Maartman > Sent: 01 June 2004 20:03 > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > And fine help files they are. I think it would be good for > the on-line help to be put in a series of .dxp files to > compliment the .chm files. > Don thinks Windows perhaps even 98 ships with a utility to > convert .chm to html files, which could then be saved as > text. In my experience, having both downloadable and on-line > help do rather compliment each other. The problem with the > on-line help, and no reflection on George, is acidentally > exitting the help program and trying to find my place again. > I'm thinking this shouldn't be difficult as the end result > has to be compiled into .chm files. > > Thanks > Jack > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:33 AM > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > Jack, > > > > George has been writing the help. He's done a fabulous job. At the > same > > time, this means that things are unlikely to be documented until > George > > understands them (and he does understand this now) and is satisfied > that > he > > won't push for further change (the jury is still out in > that regard). > > > > Once George is happy with his understanding and our implementation > then > > things like this are sure to be documented. > > > > - Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > > Behalf Of Jack Maartman > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:58 PM > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > Can we documentthis, in help. It may seem strange, but it > makes a kind > of > > sense after you repeat the exercise. My guess is that unless DBT is > > networked, most of us probably wouldn't have more than two anyway. > Are > > printers mutually exclusive, and can you make DBT think a > embosser is > a > > printer, or vise vers, based on port settings. > > > > Jack > > > > a > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:50 AM > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > Jack, > > > > > > If you delete all embossers, but don't create a new one, > you cannot > get > > out > > > of the remaining dialog using OK -- you must use Cancel. When you > use > > > Cancel, DBT won't save any changes, including the > removal, addition, > or > > > modification of any embosser configurations. > > > > > > George, Ian, and I have been dicussing this issue for > some time now. > > George > > > maintains that the way it works will be confusing to people. Your > report > > > seems to bear out his point of view. But there are problems that > will > > arise > > > however we might modify this behavior, so I've been disinclined to > make > a > > > change. > > > > > > - Peter > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > On > > > Behalf Of Jack Maartman > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:33 PM > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > I don't know, as it is the only system I have. I'll have to > re-install > > > everything, and then try again, or some upt the courage to delete > the > > > entries via regedit. I am reluctant to do this, as if the system > doesn't > > > boot, I don't have a monitor, let alone requisite help--well who > needs a > > > monitor anyway!! Perhaps this is not even a win98 issue. You can > delete > > all > > > embossers, but when you re-initialize DBT they're all still there. > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:21 AM > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > Jack, > > > > > > > > I've been hearing about some trouble removing > embossers; I perhaps > > hadn't > > > > picked up the detail that this is with Windows 98 specifically. > > > > > > > > - Peter > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > On > > > > Behalf Of Jack Maartman > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:22 PM > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > Will do. > > > > > > > > Did I mention it seems impossible to delete embossers > under win98. > I > > don't > > > > know what implications this has, as I haven't one. > > > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:41 AM > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jack, > > > > > > > > > > Open a file in Word. For safety, do a File: Save As > and save it > as > > > > > something else. Having done that, go to Tools, > Options, select > the > > > > > Security Tab where you can give it a memorable > password. Close > the > > > > > file, and re-open it again, to prove to yourself that it does > actually > > > > > require a password. > > > > > > > > > > You should now be able to try whatever you want with the file. > > > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > On Behalf Of Jack Maartman > > > > > Sent: 01 June 2004 05:52 > > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to have to bone up on Ms-Word and Swift before I can > do > this > > > > > adequately. With regard to the help files, is there > anything in > > > > > particular, you want me to look for? > > > > > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 8:08 AM > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ian, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is getting quite intriguing. Any other Beta testers > tried > this > > > > > > yet? > > > > > > > > > > > > If I try to open a password protected Word 2003 document in > any of > > my > > > > > > three flavours of DBT, I get a 714 error. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, if I open the document in Word, and then use the > current > > > > > > version of SWIFT (The one which maintains multiple > .mws files) > it > > > > > comes > > > > > > into DBT OK, which is, to a large extent, what I > would expect, > or > at > > > > > > least hope for. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why YOU have the problem is a mystery. (And bear in mind I > have > the > > > > > > advantage of an XP Home and Pro system, side by side here.) > > > > > > > > > > > > What I guess we might also have to look at (but after 10.5 > please!) > > is > > > > > > The Information Rights Management Service. That should give > > > > > programmers > > > > > > a mild migraine. > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ian Robinson > > > > > > Sent: 31 May 2004 14:59 > > > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi George, > > > > > > > > > > > > I only get "Error 714" if the document is sent to DBT via > SWIFT. > > When > > > > > > using DBTs File Open dialogue, the application hangs. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW: "Error 714" is a DBT message. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 1:18 PM > > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ian, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just tried it here with XP Professional > and Home, and > > Office > > > > > > > 2003. I've also used DBT 10.4, current Beta, and the > untested > > > > > > autobuild > > > > > > > of 28th May, and in all cases I get the same result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After displaying DBT's normal import dialog, where it > correctly > > > > > > > identifies File Type, I get "Error Message 714" > pop up, but > DBT > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > hang or such like. Nothing appears in the error logs. > Trawled > > > > > the > > > > > > MS > > > > > > > KB to no avail, and even googled with no success, > so I hope > it's > a > > > > > DBT > > > > > > > error message, which can be rephrased to be something more > > > > > meaningful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not surprised you didn't find the word "password" in > Help. > > Not > > > > > > only > > > > > > > has the indexing not been completed yet, but the word > doesn't > > exist > > > > > > > anywhere in the text. Got any ideas for a topic > that should > > include > > > > > > > "password"? (Smile) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ian Robinson > > > > > > > Sent: 31 May 2004 11:47 > > > > > > > To: List DBTBeta > > > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This isn't strictly a beta issue as I can > replicate it with > 10.4. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trying to open a password protected Word document > causes DBT > to > > > > > hang. > > > > > > > The title bar is visible to JAWS, but the > application is not > > > > > > responding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trying to close DBT caused Windows XP to display the "This > program > > > > > is > > > > > > > not responding" dialogue. 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