[duxhelp] Re: Default Templates

  • From: "Michael Surato" <suratomi@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:11:49 -0400

That would not be my first inclination. Imagine for a second that you produce 
documents in 2 languages (Belgium, Quebec, and Switzerland come to mind quickly 
as possible candidates for this setup). One station is used for each language. 
For this setup I would prefer that the template is chosen at the install for 
the station, rather than for each install point.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:35 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Default Templates
> 
> Michael,
> 
> I was glad to hear Oleg second your suggestion.  It's a bit 
> trickier than you might at first imagine.  (Everything about 
> MSI installers is trickier than one might at first imagine, 
> in my opinion.)  So it's good to have some independent 
> verification of the value of this.
> 
> As you know, when our MSI installer is run in Administrative 
> mode, we present some of the same screens that are presented 
> to the end user, and preserve the values that you set as an 
> administrator.  This is intended primarily to make it easy 
> for you to help the end user get the license text entered 
> successfully.  Should we do the same thing for a default 
> template prompt?  That is, should we present that screen 
> during Administrative setup and preserve the selection with 
> the network installation image?
> 
> - Peter 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Surato
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:54 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Default Templates
> 
> My vote would be to have an override in the custom install 
> for any automated action.
> 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christian Coudert
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:45 PM
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Default Templates
> > 
> > Peter:
> > 
> > OK for a template based on the locale.
> > 
> > The French template could be named "Francais 2006". We thought of 
> > "Français unifié 2006" but accented letters are not well 
> tolerated by 
> > the software.
> > Your suggestion for "Francais unifie 2006" is not very satisfactory 
> > for users who work with synthzsizers ("unifie"
> > has a different meaning from "unifié").
> > The best solution is probably "Francais 2006".
> > 
> > This template should be the default one for France and Quebec. It 
> > cannot be the case for Belgium and Switzerland where they use two 
> > languages.
> > 
> > Christian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:18 PM
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Default Templates
> > 
> > 
> > Beta Testers,
> > 
> > We've heard from a number of sources that we should do a better job 
> > choosing the default template at installation time.  We 
> should make a 
> > selection that is informed by the user's locale, rather than just 
> > assuming that everybody will want to translate braille as 
> we do here 
> > in North America.
> > 
> > This makes sense to me, so I'm prepared to do this for this 
> release.  
> > (For the record, this improvement is currently filed with reference 
> > number 1638.)
> > 
> > I think it best to do this based on the locale, and not the 
> interface 
> > language in which Windows is running.  If you have a different 
> > opinion, please let me know right away.
> > 
> > We are probably only able to support a unique choice on a 
> > country-by-country basis.  In fact, we aren't necessarily 
> able to do 
> > that.  The simplest thing to do is to use the International 
> Telephone 
> > Country Code.  The United States, Canada, and even some Carribean 
> > locations are all considered to be the same location in this scheme.
> > Fortunately, the braille rules in the US and Canada are the 
> same, so 
> > one template should do well for both countries.
> > 
> > So, please let me know, either by sending be a message 
> directly or by 
> > responding to the group, what should be the default 
> template for users 
> > in your country?  And should that same template be used for other 
> > nations as well?
> > 
> > - Peter
> > 
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