[duxhelp] Re: Default Templates

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:29:14 -0400

Michael,

Using abbreviations to get around the problem complicates the internal
mechanism somewhat, so I'd sooner avoid that.  It is a possible out if we
ever need it.

My plan for now is to make the user interface simply ignore templates whose
names are longer than sixty-four characters.  Thus, if we add such a
template to the distribution, an end user will have to wait until after
installation to set as a default.  And unless there is some real need for a
template with a lengthy name to be the default template anywhere, I suspect
that we'll just leave things running this way for a long long while.

- Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Surato
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:14 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Default Templates

As this would only be for a custom install, I would think that only
experienced individuals (or masochists) would venture here. This being the
case, you could use abbreviations and acronyms to get beyond this (for the
install, not the name of the template).

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:54 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Default Templates
> 
> Michael,
> 
> I also find that the mechanism that Windows Installer provides for 
> listboxes won't handle strings that are longer than sixty-four 
> characters.  Currently, the maximum template name length appears to be 
> fourty-eight characters.  But DBT is less restrictive than the 
> sixty-four character limit in Windows Installer listboxes.  So we will 
> at least have to bear in mind that we'd be introducing a new 
> limitation.
> 
> - Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Surato
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:54 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Default Templates
> 
> My vote would be to have an override in the custom install for any 
> automated action.
> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christian Coudert
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:45 PM
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Default Templates
> > 
> > Peter:
> > 
> > OK for a template based on the locale.
> > 
> > The French template could be named "Francais 2006". We thought of 
> > "Français unifié 2006" but accented letters are not well
> tolerated by
> > the software.
> > Your suggestion for "Francais unifie 2006" is not very satisfactory 
> > for users who work with synthzsizers ("unifie"
> > has a different meaning from "unifié").
> > The best solution is probably "Francais 2006".
> > 
> > This template should be the default one for France and Quebec. It 
> > cannot be the case for Belgium and Switzerland where they use two 
> > languages.
> > 
> > Christian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:18 PM
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Default Templates
> > 
> > 
> > Beta Testers,
> > 
> > We've heard from a number of sources that we should do a better job 
> > choosing the default template at installation time.  We
> should make a
> > selection that is informed by the user's locale, rather than just 
> > assuming that everybody will want to translate braille as
> we do here
> > in North America.
> > 
> > This makes sense to me, so I'm prepared to do this for this
> release.  
> > (For the record, this improvement is currently filed with reference 
> > number 1638.)
> > 
> > I think it best to do this based on the locale, and not the
> interface
> > language in which Windows is running.  If you have a different 
> > opinion, please let me know right away.
> > 
> > We are probably only able to support a unique choice on a 
> > country-by-country basis.  In fact, we aren't necessarily
> able to do
> > that.  The simplest thing to do is to use the International
> Telephone
> > Country Code.  The United States, Canada, and even some Carribean 
> > locations are all considered to be the same location in this scheme.
> > Fortunately, the braille rules in the US and Canada are the
> same, so
> > one template should do well for both countries.
> > 
> > So, please let me know, either by sending be a message
> directly or by
> > responding to the group, what should be the default
> template for users
> > in your country?  And should that same template be used for other 
> > nations as well?
> > 
> > - Peter
> > 
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