[dungeoncrawl] Re: Thursday morning summary
- From: Johnathan Detrick <jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 11:34:16 -0400
I can understand your sentiments on Nadan. But I'm surprised to
hear you say he has a bad attitude. I don't see it as bad. I see it as
him standing up for what he believes in. I think if he had stayed quiet
and not confronted Ariakas, it would have been a cop-out. Same with
confronting Elminster, Mileena and Magnus. In my eyes, he's actually
acting his alignment.
I'm quite enjoying the idea that Nadan is very powerful. He knows
that he has a lot of strength and he isn't willing to compromise his
principles. For so many years Magnus has lorded things over the Riders,
in part due to the fact that he could wipe the floor with most of them.
Now he has to face someone with as much power as he has, and the
strength to stand up to him. I love the battle of wills between the two
of them and just wish they both weren't my character. :)
Don't worry about Nadan dying, especially if it comes about because
he stands up for his beliefs. He wasn't intentionally antagonizing
Ariakas, but he is a cleric of Talos, whose pretty opposed to everything
Lathander stands for. If Ariakas had killed him, so be it. Not a
problem on my end.
But Jim, don't let Nadan intimidate you. I think, that out of all
of us, high level characters cause you more concern than any other DM.
Nadan is not invulnerable. He takes damage (a lot of damage usually)
and can be hurt. He has no real protections, and his hit points, while
high, are not astronomical. When hit, does he not bleed? :) Trust me,
he was close to death quite a bit last night.
I do have an apology to make to you though. I had Nadan cast
spontaneous healing last night, as clerics can do. I thought he could
also swap out Heal and Mass Heal spells as well. Damon mentioned last
night, when we looked up the rules to see if he could spontaneously cast
Resurrection, that the rules say only spells with Cure in the title. I
checked it out last night, and Damon was right. So Nadan should not
have been able to cast as many Mass Heal spells as he did last night.
That should make you feel somewhat better. He takes one and that's it.
jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> John,
>
> You're right on target! And your
> summary captures where things stand
> really well. OK, so here's the deal:
>
> The group needs to track down Celane
> and Dr. Klaw. Apparently, Celane hates
> the Riders because one of them crippled
> her a long time ago, and her resentment
> is so strong that she's trying to keep
> godhood out of their hands. Dr. Klaw
> supposedly wants to "liberate" his
> world from "merchant kings", and seems
> to have been in control of the artifact
> from the start (since he's such a bad
> guy).
>
> The gods are important because the (now
> diabolical) Amrikol wanted to use them
> to weaken Dendar enough for him to have
> a chance of gaining power (kind of like
> when Dr. Doom confronted the Beyonder
> for you comics readers). He seems to
> have lost interest in this pursuit as a
> result of talking to Gargauth, a
> banished realms power who traded
> membership in the nine with freedom
> from hell (since the nine have that
> authority).
>
> I'm really happy with how things are
> going, and eager to see this conclude.
> As a DM, I'm facing two challenges:
>
> 1. Nadan - nothing against the
> character or how he's played, but he's
> a combination of bad attitude and
> tremendous power. Individuals who
> might not go berzerk to kill him
> normally (like Ariakas) find that goal
> to be a necessity when he taunts them.
> Ironically, he's becoming the Ceranno
> of the group.:).
>
> This is a problem for me on only one
> level - I'm worried that if he dies as
> a result of a situation like this, it
> might seem like I'm gunning for the
> character. I hope it's understood by
> everyone that if Nadan picks a fight
> with a big guy and dies, it's really
> not my preference!
>
> 2. Convolution - I'm worried that the
> plot is becoming so complex that people
> need a score card. I really, really
> hope to contain that next week.
>
> Also, I see this wrapping up in the
> next 2-3 weeks - rapidfire, eh?
>
> > Ok, first with a summary, then
> with thoughts.
> >
> > The Riders had just come from
> Amrikol's castle in the Thunderpeaks,
> > and had harangued Elminster into
> transporting them back to Sigil. He
> > agreed, but when they passed through
> the Worldwalk spell he cast, they
> > found themselves in Hell, facing the
> Black Legion, who had been
> > conversing with some devils.
> > The two groups briefly spoke,
> with Amrikol giving little indication
> > of his plans, when suddenly the Black
> Legion attacked. Already wounded
> > from their battle in the castle back
> on Faerun, Quasit and Carpathia
> > were quickly killed. Magnus wanted
> to retreat, but the Riders became
> > separated, and he was unwilling to
> leave anyone behind. Mileena used
> > her necromantic skills to bring
> Carpathia back as an undead, and the
> > Riders fought valiantly against the
> Black Legion.
> > The battle was going poorly when
> suddenly another Amrikol appeared,
> > this one looking more like the
> Amrikol the Riders had faced in their
> > early days. He declared the other
> Amrikol an impostor, and spat on the
> > Black Legion (except for Talon) who
> he felt had betrayed him by working
> > for the doppleganger. The Amrikol
> that had been leading the Black
> > Legion recently tore off his helmet,
> revealing elvish features that bore
> > a striking resemblance to Magnus. He
> began to fight the original
> > Amrikol, and the Riders tried to stay
> out of the way. Eventually they
> > joined the fight against the elven
> Amrikol, and Magnus finally slew him
> > with a Meteor Swarm. However, as
> soon as he died, he was reborn as one
> > of the Nine, the arch-fiends that
> rule Hell. Apparently he had made a
> > deal with a banished Realms power,
> although the specifics of the deal
> > are unknown.
> > Faced with the power of this new
> form, the Riders, the original
> > Amrikol and Talon fled through a
> portal to Sigil. Once there they went
> > to Ambrosia's Inn, and parted ways
> with Amrikol and Talon. They rested,
> > then resurrected their fallen
> comrades. Unsure of what to do, they
> > began to research. Magnus sent some
> of the group to research how they
> > might gain the power they have been
> chasing, while he went to free a
> > devil in exchange for information on
> the new form of the elvish
> > Amrikol. He also recruited Gadget to
> their team, as it seems that they
> > will be dealing with Klaw, his old
> enemy.
> >
> > So where does that leave them?
> Let me recap.
> > Dennis says that Klaw will have
> joined up with Celane and the
> > deities, and is heading to his home
> planet. Supposedly, Celane called
> > the remnants of the deities to her
> thanks to an artifact, the claw of
> > Dendar the Night Serpent. However,
> only someone with no moral
> > compunctions can use the claw of
> Dendar to it's full potential, and so
> > Celane will easily lose control of
> the deities to Klaw. Klaw will then
> > use the power he possesses to "set
> right" things in his world. The
> > Riders are going to journey there to
> make sure Klaw does nothing drastic
> > and to rescue Celane.
> > Meanwhile, there is still the
> problem of gaining the power of the
> > gods. According to what the Riders
> have learned, the elvish Amrikol is
> > now out of the race. Their devil
> ally told them that one of the Nine
> > would have no time or interest in
> focusing their attention on one measly
> > little prime world when they can
> affect all realities everywhere by
> > taking part in the Blood War. He
> should no longer be involved.
> > However, the original Amrikol is
> now interested in the power. And
> > the Riders aren't sure how to get
> it. It seems that they need to
> > destroy Dendar the Night Serpent to
> gain the power, but Dendar killed
> > all the deities of that Realm, so
> destroying him is no easy task. The
> > Riders are looking into ways to do
> that now.
> >
> > That's it for me. I'd be
> thrilled if someone would comment on my
> > conclusions and tell me if they are
> correct.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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