[dungeoncrawl] Re: The end of an era

  • From: Johnathan Detrick <jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:23:37 -0400

    I think....that I'm not sure.  How about 3/4 elves?

jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> According to official sources, what
> should Dennis's kids be?  Elves, or
> half-elves?
>
> > John makes a good point about the
> ages being disparate, but I thought that
> > elves matured at just a slightly
> slower rate than humans, or half-elves
> in
> > the case of Dennis' children.  So a
> common starting age for an elf would be
> > in his 20's or 30's, or am I thinking
> of half-elves?  Hmmm...
> >
> > I have some cool ideas for playing
> Krymsin, but I hadn't thought about
> > playing a child of someone else's
> character.  That would be interesting to
> > see how someone plays a character who
> has another person's character as a
> > parent.  Very interesting.
> >
> > But, I do have some ideas for Krymsin
> if we ever do end up playing them.
> > Even if he has to wait.  I even have
> a cool miniature for him.  :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:06
> AM
> > To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: The end
> of an era
> >
> > That would be a lot of fun.  We could
> > shake things up, like I'd play
> Crimsin,
> > Matt would play an "old hand" like
> > Foster, and you would play one of
> > Dennis's daughters, or something.  It
> > would be neat to see where it leads.
> >
> >
> > > Once the world is created, we could
> > even speed up time a bit and play the
> > > children of our former characters.
> > It would be cool if we revisited the
> > > world after 20 years or so and
> found
> > the children had grown up and had
> > > formed an adventuring band or
> > something like that.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002
> > 12:34 PM
> > > To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: The end
> > of an era
> > >
> > > I could see a super cool plot
> someday
> > > where we have new characters from
> > that
> > > world and they're sent on a quest
> to
> > > retrieve the kids.
> > >
> > > Or even if the kids are raised on
> the
> > > outer planes, they themselves might
> > > make neat characters.  Dennis's
> > > daughters have to be at least 10 by
> > > now, for example -
> > >
> > > >
> > > >     I hadn't even considered that
> > > Magnus now has nieces and nephews.
> I
> > > > wonder how he will react to that.
> > > >     I also wonder what will
> happen
> > to
> > > some of the children as their
> > > > parents become deities.
> > > >     I also wanted to mention to
> > > everyone not to forget Mileena as
> > > > someone that could easily grasp
> > power
> > > for herself.  She's certainly one
> > > > to watch.
> > > >
> > > > jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In her current mood, she'd
> > probably
> > > be
> > > > > just fine with that. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > But you reminded me of
> something -
> >
> > > with
> > > > > what we found out last time,
> > Dennis
> > > is
> > > > > Magnus's brother in law, and
> their
> > > > > three kids are his nephew and
> > > nieces...
> > > > >
> > > > > > Baish wants to bang her, just
> to
> > > > > complete the circle of sleeping
> > with
> > > > > every
> > > > > > female that Magnus is related
> to
> > > > > either through blood or
> > > marriage.  :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09,
> > 2002
> > > > > 11:46 AM
> > > > > > To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re:
> The
> > > end
> > > > > of an era
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On another note, did the
> > > revelations
> > > > > > last time about Celane change
> > > > > anyone's
> > > > > > opinion of the character?  Do
> > you
> > > see
> > > > > > any PCs treating her
> > differently
> > > as a
> > > > > > result?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Yes, it could make
> things
> > > > > > interesting.  It might also be
> > > > > > interesting
> > > > > > > to see if someone that
> > doesn't
> > > want
> > > > > > the power receives it.  Let's
> > say
> > > > > > > Nadan gets it.  Might his
> > > > > > subconscious influence the
> way
> > he
> > > > > > creates a
> > > > > > > world?  Perhaps he makes
> elves
> > > > > > superior, drow their slaves,
> and
> > > > > dwarves
> > > > > > > a dying race.  That could be
> > > > > > interesting.
> > > > > > >     There's a lot of very
> > > > > interesting
> > > > > > ideas here.  I think everyone
> > > > > > > might be surprised by how
> > Magnus
> > > > > > reacts to things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I kind of feel like we're
> > > > > > > > doing "experimental" D&D,
> > like
> > > > > 70s
> > > > > > rock
> > > > > > > > and roll or something.  I
> > > mean,
> > > > > if I
> > > > > > > > was actually a character
> in
> > > this
> > > > > > > > adventure, I'd be
> figuring
> > out
> > > > > who
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > real friends were really
> > > quick and
> > > > > > > > deciding what to do
> next.
> > > Let's
> > > > > > say I
> > > > > > > > was lawful good - I'd pow-
> > wow
> > > with
> > > > > > > > Gadget and Faceus and
> > figure
> > > out
> > > > > > how to
> > > > > > > > pull the rug out from
> under
> > > > > Magnus.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As DM, I won't obstruct
> or
> > > help
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > > certain character - I hope
> > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > understands when I say
> that
> > > there
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > be serious opposition
> > against
> > > the
> > > > > > group
> > > > > > > > (not necessarily the Black
> > > > > Legion),
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > that any current PC or
> NPC
> > > could
> > > > > > end up
> > > > > > > > with the power through
> sheer
> > > > > > attrition.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It would also help us
> > define
> > > the
> > > > > > > > pantheon - if Magnus and
> > > Dennis
> > > > > are
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > longer friends because
> > Magnus
> > > > > kills
> > > > > > > > Celane, or if Baish and
> > Gadget
> > > > > > become
> > > > > > > > bitter enemies, so much
> the
> > > > > better -
> > > > > >  it
> > > > > > > > will spice up the
> pantheon.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >     I thought I would
> > start
> > > a
> > > > > new
> > > > > > > > list, since the last one
> was
> > > > > > getting a
> > > > > > > > > tad long.
> > > > > > > > >     Jim, you have
> renewed
> > my
> > > > > > interest
> > > > > > > > in this plot, and
> hopefully
> > > > > > > > > Damon's as well.
> > > Basically, the
> > > > > > > > question of whether or
> not
> > the
> > > > > > > > > characters will succeed
> > is a
> > > > > moot
> > > > > > > > one.  Jim has said we
> will,
> > > but
> > > > > > > > > honestly, even if he
> > hadn't
> > > > > said
> > > > > > it,
> > > > > > > > of course the characters
> > would
> > > > > > > > > succeed.  I understand
> > what
> > > > > Damon
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > saying in his e-mail, but
> we
> > > > > > > > > always know the
> > characters
> > > will
> > > > > > > > succeed.  How many times
> > have
> > > we
> > > > > > failed,
> > > > > > > > > in any campaign?  Sure,
> > we
> > > lose
> > > > > > > > battles, but how often do
> > we
> > > lose
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > war?  All Jim really
> did
> > was
> > > > > > > > verbalize it.
> > > > > > > > >     So the question now
> > is,
> > > how
> > > > > > well
> > > > > > > > will the party succeed?
> > > Whosoever
> > > > > > > > > grasps the power
> controls
> > > the
> > > > > > > > destiny.  That's a pretty
> > tall
> > > > > > order.
> > > > > > > > > Will one of the Riders
> > > > > succeed?
> > > > > > Will
> > > > > > > > one of the Black Legion?
> > > Celane?
> > > > > > > > > How will Magnus' world
> > > differ
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > > Quasit's?  Escrima's?
> > > Gadget's?
> > > > > > > > > Will the party turn
> > against
> > > each
> > > > > > > > other to claim the
> power?
> > In
> > > my
> > > > > > > > > opinion, the question
> of
> > > how the
> > > > > > > > adventure will end, and
> who
> > > will
> > > > > > > > > imprint the world with
> > their
> > > > > > desires,
> > > > > > > > is infinitely more
> > interesting
> > > > > > > > > than whether or not the
> > > group
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > > succeed at all.
> Hopefully
> > > Damon
> > > > > > > > > agrees.
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