I thought I would start a new list, since the last one was getting a tad long. Jim, you have renewed my interest in this plot, and hopefully Damon's as well. Basically, the question of whether or not the characters will succeed is a moot one. Jim has said we will, but honestly, even if he hadn't said it, of course the characters would succeed. I understand what Damon was saying in his e-mail, but we always know the characters will succeed. How many times have we failed, in any campaign? Sure, we lose battles, but how often do we lose the war? All Jim really did was verbalize it. So the question now is, how well will the party succeed? Whosoever grasps the power controls the destiny. That's a pretty tall order. Will one of the Riders succeed? Will one of the Black Legion? Celane? How will Magnus' world differ from Quasit's? Escrima's? Gadget's? Will the party turn against each other to claim the power? In my opinion, the question of how the adventure will end, and who will imprint the world with their desires, is infinitely more interesting than whether or not the group will succeed at all. Hopefully Damon agrees.