[dungeoncrawl] Re: The end of an era

  • From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:06:27 US/Eastern

That would be a lot of fun.  We could 
shake things up, like I'd play Crimsin, 
Matt would play an "old hand" like 
Foster, and you would play one of 
Dennis's daughters, or something.  It 
would be neat to see where it leads.


> Once the world is created, we could 
even speed up time a bit and play the
> children of our former characters.  
It would be cool if we revisited the
> world after 20 years or so and found 
the children had grown up and had
> formed an adventuring band or 
something like that.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 
12:34 PM
> To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: The end 
of an era
> 
> I could see a super cool plot someday 
> where we have new characters from 
that 
> world and they're sent on a quest to 
> retrieve the kids.  
> 
> Or even if the kids are raised on the 
> outer planes, they themselves might 
> make neat characters.  Dennis's 
> daughters have to be at least 10 by 
> now, for example -
> 
> > 
> >     I hadn't even considered that 
> Magnus now has nieces and nephews.  I
> > wonder how he will react to that.
> >     I also wonder what will happen 
to 
> some of the children as their
> > parents become deities.
> >     I also wanted to mention to 
> everyone not to forget Mileena as
> > someone that could easily grasp 
power 
> for herself.  She's certainly one
> > to watch.
> > 
> > jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > 
> > > In her current mood, she'd 
probably 
> be
> > > just fine with that. :)
> > >
> > > But you reminded me of something -
 
> with
> > > what we found out last time, 
Dennis 
> is
> > > Magnus's brother in law, and their
> > > three kids are his nephew and 
> nieces...
> > >
> > > > Baish wants to bang her, just to
> > > complete the circle of sleeping 
with
> > > every
> > > > female that Magnus is related to
> > > either through blood or 
> marriage.  :)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 
2002
> > > 11:46 AM
> > > > To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: The 
> end
> > > of an era
> > > >
> > > > On another note, did the 
> revelations
> > > > last time about Celane change
> > > anyone's
> > > > opinion of the character?  Do 
you 
> see
> > > > any PCs treating her 
differently 
> as a
> > > > result?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     Yes, it could make things
> > > > interesting.  It might also be
> > > > interesting
> > > > > to see if someone that 
doesn't 
> want
> > > > the power receives it.  Let's 
say
> > > > > Nadan gets it.  Might his
> > > > subconscious influence the way 
he
> > > > creates a
> > > > > world?  Perhaps he makes elves
> > > > superior, drow their slaves, and
> > > dwarves
> > > > > a dying race.  That could be
> > > > interesting.
> > > > >     There's a lot of very
> > > interesting
> > > > ideas here.  I think everyone
> > > > > might be surprised by how 
Magnus
> > > > reacts to things.
> > > > >
> > > > > jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I kind of feel like we're
> > > > > > doing "experimental" D&D, 
like
> > > 70s
> > > > rock
> > > > > > and roll or something.  I 
> mean,
> > > if I
> > > > > > was actually a character in 
> this
> > > > > > adventure, I'd be figuring 
out
> > > who
> > > > my
> > > > > > real friends were really 
> quick and
> > > > > > deciding what to do next.  
> Let's
> > > > say I
> > > > > > was lawful good - I'd pow-
wow 
> with
> > > > > > Gadget and Faceus and 
figure 
> out
> > > > how to
> > > > > > pull the rug out from under
> > > Magnus.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As DM, I won't obstruct or 
> help
> > > any
> > > > > > certain character - I hope
> > > everyone
> > > > > > understands when I say that 
> there
> > > > will
> > > > > > be serious opposition 
against 
> the
> > > > group
> > > > > > (not necessarily the Black
> > > Legion),
> > > > and
> > > > > > that any current PC or NPC 
> could
> > > > end up
> > > > > > with the power through sheer
> > > > attrition.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would also help us 
define 
> the
> > > > > > pantheon - if Magnus and 
> Dennis
> > > are
> > > > no
> > > > > > longer friends because 
Magnus
> > > kills
> > > > > > Celane, or if Baish and 
Gadget
> > > > become
> > > > > > bitter enemies, so much the
> > > better -
> > > >  it
> > > > > > will spice up the pantheon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     I thought I would 
start 
> a
> > > new
> > > > > > list, since the last one was
> > > > getting a
> > > > > > > tad long.
> > > > > > >     Jim, you have renewed 
my
> > > > interest
> > > > > > in this plot, and hopefully
> > > > > > > Damon's as well.  
> Basically, the
> > > > > > question of whether or not 
the
> > > > > > > characters will succeed 
is a
> > > moot
> > > > > > one.  Jim has said we will, 
> but
> > > > > > > honestly, even if he 
hadn't
> > > said
> > > > it,
> > > > > > of course the characters 
would
> > > > > > > succeed.  I understand 
what
> > > Damon
> > > > was
> > > > > > saying in his e-mail, but we
> > > > > > > always know the 
characters 
> will
> > > > > > succeed.  How many times 
have 
> we
> > > > failed,
> > > > > > > in any campaign?  Sure, 
we 
> lose
> > > > > > battles, but how often do 
we 
> lose
> > > > the
> > > > > > > war?  All Jim really did 
was
> > > > > > verbalize it.
> > > > > > >     So the question now 
is, 
> how
> > > > well
> > > > > > will the party succeed?  
> Whosoever
> > > > > > > grasps the power controls 
> the
> > > > > > destiny.  That's a pretty 
tall
> > > > order.
> > > > > > > Will one of the Riders
> > > succeed?
> > > > Will
> > > > > > one of the Black Legion?  
> Celane?
> > > > > > > How will Magnus' world 
> differ
> > > from
> > > > > > Quasit's?  Escrima's?  
> Gadget's?
> > > > > > > Will the party turn 
against 
> each
> > > > > > other to claim the power?  
In 
> my
> > > > > > > opinion, the question of 
> how the
> > > > > > adventure will end, and who 
> will
> > > > > > > imprint the world with 
their
> > > > desires,
> > > > > > is infinitely more 
interesting
> > > > > > > than whether or not the 
> group
> > > will
> > > > > > succeed at all.  Hopefully 
> Damon
> > > > > > > agrees.
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