I could see a super cool plot someday where we have new characters from that world and they're sent on a quest to retrieve the kids. Or even if the kids are raised on the outer planes, they themselves might make neat characters. Dennis's daughters have to be at least 10 by now, for example - > > I hadn't even considered that Magnus now has nieces and nephews. I > wonder how he will react to that. > I also wonder what will happen to some of the children as their > parents become deities. > I also wanted to mention to everyone not to forget Mileena as > someone that could easily grasp power for herself. She's certainly one > to watch. > > jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > In her current mood, she'd probably be > > just fine with that. :) > > > > But you reminded me of something - with > > what we found out last time, Dennis is > > Magnus's brother in law, and their > > three kids are his nephew and nieces... > > > > > Baish wants to bang her, just to > > complete the circle of sleeping with > > every > > > female that Magnus is related to > > either through blood or marriage. :) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 > > 11:46 AM > > > To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: The end > > of an era > > > > > > On another note, did the revelations > > > last time about Celane change > > anyone's > > > opinion of the character? Do you see > > > any PCs treating her differently as a > > > result? > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it could make things > > > interesting. It might also be > > > interesting > > > > to see if someone that doesn't want > > > the power receives it. Let's say > > > > Nadan gets it. Might his > > > subconscious influence the way he > > > creates a > > > > world? Perhaps he makes elves > > > superior, drow their slaves, and > > dwarves > > > > a dying race. That could be > > > interesting. > > > > There's a lot of very > > interesting > > > ideas here. I think everyone > > > > might be surprised by how Magnus > > > reacts to things. > > > > > > > > jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > > > > > I kind of feel like we're > > > > > doing "experimental" D&D, like > > 70s > > > rock > > > > > and roll or something. I mean, > > if I > > > > > was actually a character in this > > > > > adventure, I'd be figuring out > > who > > > my > > > > > real friends were really quick and > > > > > deciding what to do next. Let's > > > say I > > > > > was lawful good - I'd pow-wow with > > > > > Gadget and Faceus and figure out > > > how to > > > > > pull the rug out from under > > Magnus. > > > > > > > > > > As DM, I won't obstruct or help > > any > > > > > certain character - I hope > > everyone > > > > > understands when I say that there > > > will > > > > > be serious opposition against the > > > group > > > > > (not necessarily the Black > > Legion), > > > and > > > > > that any current PC or NPC could > > > end up > > > > > with the power through sheer > > > attrition. > > > > > > > > > > It would also help us define the > > > > > pantheon - if Magnus and Dennis > > are > > > no > > > > > longer friends because Magnus > > kills > > > > > Celane, or if Baish and Gadget > > > become > > > > > bitter enemies, so much the > > better - > > > it > > > > > will spice up the pantheon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought I would start a > > new > > > > > list, since the last one was > > > getting a > > > > > > tad long. > > > > > > Jim, you have renewed my > > > interest > > > > > in this plot, and hopefully > > > > > > Damon's as well. Basically, the > > > > > question of whether or not the > > > > > > characters will succeed is a > > moot > > > > > one. Jim has said we will, but > > > > > > honestly, even if he hadn't > > said > > > it, > > > > > of course the characters would > > > > > > succeed. I understand what > > Damon > > > was > > > > > saying in his e-mail, but we > > > > > > always know the characters will > > > > > succeed. How many times have we > > > failed, > > > > > > in any campaign? Sure, we lose > > > > > battles, but how often do we lose > > > the > > > > > > war? All Jim really did was > > > > > verbalize it. > > > > > > So the question now is, how > > > well > > > > > will the party succeed? Whosoever > > > > > > grasps the power controls the > > > > > destiny. That's a pretty tall > > > order. > > > > > > Will one of the Riders > > succeed? > > > Will > > > > > one of the Black Legion? Celane? > > > > > > How will Magnus' world differ > > from > > > > > Quasit's? Escrima's? Gadget's? > > > > > > Will the party turn against each > > > > > other to claim the power? In my > > > > > > opinion, the question of how the > > > > > adventure will end, and who will > > > > > > imprint the world with their > > > desires, > > > > > is infinitely more interesting > > > > > > than whether or not the group > > will > > > > > succeed at all. Hopefully Damon > > > > > > agrees. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >